Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Typhoons being tanked through lichfield corridor

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Typhoons being tanked through lichfield corridor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 9th Nov 2017, 18:11
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 257
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
ORAC is right - was it ARA 1 in Scotland?
Top West 50 is offline  
Old 9th Nov 2017, 19:02
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 289
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Crazy Near Miss During Air Refuel | Military.com

Boom is safer? I'd rather have a flexible hose between the aircraft than a rigid boom.
k3k3 is offline  
Old 9th Nov 2017, 19:43
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 257
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
I think in my day winding and trailing overland was to be avoided unless operationally essential. I don't think we bothered too much about refuelling over land. I think we were obliged to trail over land crossing France (or did we just leave the hoses out)? French fighters used to police the refuelling areas, sometimes resulting in diplomatic escalation.
Top West 50 is offline  
Old 9th Nov 2017, 23:25
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW England
Age: 77
Posts: 3,896
Received 16 Likes on 4 Posts
We certainly trailed and rewound our hoses when doing AAR over France. Never left them trailed once AAR was complete.
Tankertrashnav is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2017, 00:27
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 27
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Is it true that a boom driver once stabbed an A10 pilot in the chest?
EGDLaddict is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2017, 09:23
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Exeter UK
Posts: 280
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There is (as I type on Friday morning) a French Air Force C-135FR tanking an RAF Sentry over Cornwall in AARA10W.
EGTE is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2017, 09:51
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northants
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Fairly sure I night tanked from a VC10 over the Great Glen in about 95. Not Op Workup either as I seem to remember (although the chaps from Hereford were involved in the sortie so who knows?)
Flap62 is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2017, 10:53
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
Flap62, October 1994, perhaps?
BEagle is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2017, 21:18
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northants
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by BEagle
Flap62, October 1994, perhaps?

Oh, perhaps. Might have to dig out the logbook. Twas pretty dark tho!
Flap62 is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2017, 10:09
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Fragrant Harbour
Posts: 4,787
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
Can’t remember the number but there was a towline overland in the Highlands.
Tanking over land is one thing, but trailing the hoses is another as they occasionally came off on extension. Many years ago, a 101 Sqn crew were considering trailing over land in Scotland as they were running a bit late. The co-pilot was a very wealthy and much landed chap known as Bisto (Thick and rich). He checked his map and informed the Captain that it was OK to trail, as he owned that bit of Scotland!
Dan Winterland is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2017, 10:43
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW England
Age: 77
Posts: 3,896
Received 16 Likes on 4 Posts
Tanking over land is one thing, but trailing the hoses is another as they occasionally came off on extension
Dan, do you remember any incidents, other than the German incident I described in post 11? No doubt that wasn't the only occasion, just the only one I knew about.
Tankertrashnav is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2017, 11:28
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
101 had to loan a VC10K to Boscombe for some receiver trial or other - the usual handbag session between Brize and Boscombe over who should fly the aircraft resulted in a Boscombe crew being allocated.

Off they went to the North Sea and trailed the hoses. The left trailed as normally, but the right went to full extension, kept going and departed.

It wasn't due to any error on behalf of the Boscombe crew, apparently it was a failure of the jettison assembly. But did we give them any stick about their trip? You can probably guess! They'd taped the CCTV and intercom, so we saw and heard the whole thing in the crewroom afterwards!

Bisto was indeed a 'bloody nice chap' on 101, but rather like Tim-nice-but-dim, he only had Harrovian levels of mathematics. After he once announced "You can't have a minus minus a plus!", he had the task of sorting out the imprest figures taken over by his long-suffering captain!
BEagle is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2017, 15:43
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 770
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Going to and from Maple Flag exercises in the early '80s we (Buccs) would tank from Honington to Goose Bay and then tank between Goose and Cold Lake from a Victor. We also did a Goose Bay detachment in early '82 when we had a Victor with us and would tank overland on most sorties.

At Lossie we had a Bucc tanker where the crew one day trailed the hose which just kept going and detached, at which point the pod caught fire (hydraulic fluid, I think) so they had to jettison the pod! Luckily, that was somewhere over the Moray Firth.
LOMCEVAK is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2017, 19:11
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 1,785
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by LOMCEVAK
Going to and from Maple Flag exercises in the early '80s we (Buccs) would tank from Honington to Goose Bay and then tank between Goose and Cold Lake from a Victor. We also did a Goose Bay detachment in early '82 when we had a Victor with us and would tank overland on most sorties.
Hope they trailed and wound the hoses over the lakes!

Did tac LL AAR with a Bucc tanker "Oop North" once. Got enough fuel to go home.

OAP
Onceapilot is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2017, 20:54
  #35 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Home
Posts: 187
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I remember training a student and impressing on him that when trailing the hoses to monitor their deployment, this we did, we then watched the basket on the right hand hose start to spin and twist the hose until it failed, we lost about five metres of the hose and the basket, thankfully, we were over the sea!
haltonapp is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.