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Old 22nd Oct 2017, 20:12
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Originally Posted by Trim Stab
Have you ever set foot in Africa? Go there, your eyes will be opened...

I also suggest you read the full wikipedia article and all the links therein. The evidence that different races have different IQs, as well as different, cranial volumes, different proportions of long twitch and short twitch muscles, different skin colours, different hair textures, different levels of hormones (particularly testosterone) is completely substantiated. It is due to different proportions of Homo Sapien, Neanderthal, and Denisovian DNA in the genetic makeup of modern human beings. Africans are 100% Homo Sapiens, Caucasians about 90% Homo Sapiens and 10 % Neanderthal, NE Asians have a higher proportion of Neanderthal (hence higher cranial volume and higher IQ), and finally Australian Aborigines have the lowest proportion of Neanderthal DNA plus some Denisovian DNA which accounts for their unusually low IQs.
Does that mean that Hom Sap were less intelligent than Neanderthal but better fighters? So they were better balanced; a bit like comparing IQ and common sense.
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Originally Posted by Basil
Does that mean that Hom Sap were less intelligent than Neanderthal but better fighters? So they were better balanced; a bit like comparing IQ and common sense.
Yes, Neanderthals were more intelligent than Homo Sapiens. Neanderthals had higher cranial volumes (about 1600cc) compared to Homo Sapiens (about 1300cc). There is a strong correlation between IQ and intelligence in human races. Neanderthals were also taller, stronger, had fair skin, and straight hair.

Caucasians have about 5-10% Caucasian DNA and cranial volumes about 1450cc. Japanese/Korean have a higher percentage of Neanderthal DNA and slightly higher cranial volumes than Caucasians (about 1500cc) and also have more Neanderthal characteristics (eg straight hair). Africans have no Neanderthal DNA, which is why they have the smallest cranial volumes of any human race.

Nobody is sure why Homo Sapiens was able to invade Europe and force out the Neanderthals. The old theories that Homo Sapiens were more intelligent have now been discredited. It is thought by some researchers that Homo Sapiens bought with them a disease that they were resistant to - there is some evidence to show that Syphilis arrived in the northern Hemisphere about the same time as Homo Sapiens.

I became very interested in all of this when I moved to Africa about six years ago for work. Having witnessed first hand how utterly stupid the majority are, the selfish, myopic greed of the more intelligent, and seen their total inability to build any sort of functioning society, despite being overwhelmed with natural resources, sunshine, water, fertile agricultural land, I decided that the old theories that we are all descended from inhabitants of the Rift Valley to be highly unlikely.

Political correctness should not make us blind to science. Any disbelievers should just go to Lagos (for example) and see the honking, chaotic, ugly, crassly unjust society that Africans build, totally devoid of any art or beauty, despite having fabulous wealth at their disposal. I don't want these people coming into Europe and messing up our place too. The black people already in the UK still struggle to integrate despite being there now for generations since the 1950s. They are still more likely to drop out of school early, fail to find work, get involved in crime, spend life on benefits, and have more children, than white citizens or asian citizens. And I am also fed up with their failings being blamed on "racism" in British society, and I get particularly angry when our police force - which is the best in the world - is accused of racism. The likes of David Lammy should go to Nigeria and see how the Nigerian police function lol.
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Wow, just wow.

What about this black person, TrimStab? Is he here "messing up our place"? Dr Johnson Gideon Beharry VC
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
Wow, just wow.

What about this black person, TrimStab? Is he here "messing up our place"? Dr Johnson Gideon Beharry VC

No not at all. Where have I said that all black people are messing up our place? Quite clearly there are some success stories. Beharry is British, and has integrated well, and has done the country a great service. There are others like him, who serve the country well.

However, they are a minority. If you look at crime statistics in UK - black people are proportionally more likely to commit crime. Also, more likely to drop out of school with no qualifications. Less likely to become productive members of society. We have been doing our best for many years in UK to reverse this trend - but it is a difficult battle. I therefore think that we should try to limit the immigration from Africa in order to reduce the burden on our society in the future.

I positively welcome immigration from EU countries (particularly Eastern Europe) as they are generally hard working people. I also wish we could attract immigrants from Japan - wonderful courteous, well educated people who work very hard. Unfortunately Japanese don't want to immigrate to UK due to all the street crime and Islamic terrorism.

It is obviously not very politically correct to make these statements and I realise it is offensive to some people who have been conditioned over many years. But I will say it again - allowing mass immigration from Africa will be a burden on our society for many generations.
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allowing mass immigration from Africa
Where does it say that this is going to happen?
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
Where does it say that this is going to happen?
It is happening now! About a million have reached Europe over the past few years, mostly young males. In future the problem is likely to worsen - population projections suggest that the population of Nigeria will pass the USA by about 2050 -

Nigeria to surpass the US as world's 3rd most populous country - CNN

And that'll be about the time the oil runs out in Nigeria too. Mass migration from Africa is already destabilising Europe, and we are not doing enough to stop it. Africans simply cannot function in a modern technologically driven society like ours.
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
Where does it say that this is going to happen?
Have you had a look at The Med recently?

https://www.voanews.com/a/migrants-s...y/3264783.html
GENEVA — (2016)
The International Organization for Migration reports a large number of Sub-Saharan Africans, mainly from Nigeria, Mali, Gambia, and Senegal has been arriving in Italy this year. The IOM says most of the migrants are coming from Libya on overcrowded rubber dinghies.

According to the report, at least 170,000 refugees and migrants have crossed the Mediterranean Sea from Turkey into Europe this year — eight times more than the number recorded for the first three months of 2015.
Far-Right group sends ship to Mediterranean to confront 'criminal' rescue vessels and block migrants
More than 85,000 migrants, most of them sub-Saharan Africans, have been rescued and brought to Italy this year, with fears that the total could reach 200,000 by December. More than 2,000 have died during the crossing.
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My god you actually believe this 5hit
Its a long-discredited idea: that intelligence is influenced by racial origin.
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Have you had a look at The Med recently?
I have seen the illegal immigration in the Med, which by definition means that no one is 'letting them into Europe'. I guess we could just let them drown (in the context of this shameful thread, I should point out that this last bit is sarcasm on my part).
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Originally Posted by woptb
My god you actually believe this 5hit
Its a long-discredited idea: that intelligence is influenced by racial origin.
I don't know. Does anyone?
There are PROBABLY different kinds of adaptive intelligence (Hey, that sounds very academic but probably more bull**** than IQ )
I understand that, in the heyday of the Zulu, they operated a very effective and disciplined army; bit like the ancient Romans.
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
I have seen the illegal immigration in the Med, which by definition means that no one is 'letting them into Europe'. I guess we could just let them drown (in the context of this shameful thread, I should point out that this last bit is sarcasm on my part).
Legal-schmiegel, Europe is still being over-run.
What would you suggest we do?
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Surprising but, for once, the Brit Government is dropping PC:

British IS fighters 'must be killed', minister says - BBC News
The "only way" to deal with British IS fighters in Syria is "in almost every case" to kill them, the minister for international development has said.
p.s. I wouldn't suggest that those deadly enemies are unintelligent - would that they were!
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Originally Posted by woptb
My god you actually believe this 5hit
Its a long-discredited idea: that intelligence is influenced by racial origin.
Amazing how some people are so blinded by political correctness. How would you explain this:

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

https://books.google.fr/books/about/...er&redir_esc=y

https://books.google.fr/books?id=sZY...s_similarbooks

And how do you explain the utter failure of black Africans to build a single functioning country? There is not a single country in Africa that has advanced in any way since independence from colonial rule. All of them have gone backwards - more corruption, worse education system, more social injustice, more wars and social upheaval. And don't blame colonial rule for their problems. They have had long enough to sort themselves out. If you look at that IQ map, you will see that the average IQ in central African countries is around 65. A person of that level of IQ in our society is totally dysfunctional.

To come back to my original point about immigration - we should positively welcome immigrants from all blue and purple countries on that IQ map - and keep the rest out.

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Why Africa is in its present state, I don't know. Again you're conflating several arguments to support of your central premise that Black people are less intelligent.
You also keep wheeling out PC'ness,I would use the term common human decency.

Different population groups are exposed to very different environmental conditions, which is why average scores vary. For this reason IQ scores are rising faster in some populations than others (average IQs of Kenyan children were shown to have risen by 26.3 points in 14 years). Similarly, black American IQs are rising at a faster rate than those of white Americans, while Jewish Americans went from having below average IQs at the time of the First World War to having above average IQs now.

Its idiotic to compare the IQs of different populations. When you remove IQ scores from the tool box of the scientific racists, the rest of their case (your case) is demonstrably a pile of 5hite.
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Originally Posted by woptb
Why Africa is in its present state, I don't know. Again you're conflating several arguments to support of your central premise that Black people are less intelligent.
You also keep wheeling out PC'ness,I would use the term common human decency.

Different population groups are exposed to very different environmental conditions, which is why average scores vary. For this reason IQ scores are rising faster in some populations than others (average IQs of Kenyan children were shown to have risen by 26.3 points in 14 years). Similarly, black American IQs are rising at a faster rate than those of white Americans, while Jewish Americans went from having below average IQs at the time of the First World War to having above average IQs now.

Its idiotic to compare the IQs of different populations. When you remove IQ scores from the tool box of the scientific racists, the rest of their case (your case) is demonstrably a pile of 5hite.
The reason Africa is a ****box is that Africans are completely incapable of building functioning societies. Africans (and Australian aborigines) are the only societies in the world that have been unable and unwilling to build an educational system. This is why they are so far behind the rest of the world. Their failure to invest in education is a sign, in itself, of their lack of intelligence. Take a look at Nigeria - fabulous oil wealth. But the likes of Alison Madueke (google her) simply steal billions, meanwhile approx 11 million Nigerian children do not have access to any sort of education whatsoever. How can you possibly argue that such ghastly people are as intellgent as (say) Japanese, who have built a wealthy, equitable, technologically advanced society, with universal free education, universal free health care, very little crime, exquisite art and music, all with very little natural resources? Quite evidently Japanese people are far more intelligent than Africans - to claim otherwise is bizarre.

Excessive political correctness is a great failing in our society. We should be deciding the future of our society based on evaluation of which ethnic groups and nationals should be encouraged to immigrate to make a positive contribution, not on what is politically correct.

If you look at that IQ map, the majority of social problems in the UK stem from allowing immigration from the red and yellow countries.
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As I said earlier, this has what to do with any sort of aviation......
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11 million Nigerian children do not have access to any sort of education whatsoever. How can you possibly argue that such ghastly people are as intellgent as (say) Japanese, who have built a wealthy, equitable, technologically advanced society
By that logic, all the 150+ IQ kids who left school at 16 because they chose to, are all thicker than all the underwater basket weaving graduates who now have a degree. They have more education, so it must be so. No?

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Trim Stab, at least one of the websites you present is a con job.
I would counsel against clicking.
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Trim Stab, at least one of the websites you present is a con job.
I would counsel against clicking.
... as I discovered, when having done the IQ test I was asked to pay $9.99 to see the answer
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