Fallon Warns Boeing
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We're not "out there", yet it's clear the supposed bloc protection is illusory. And far from slagging the EU off, the government has so far been unfailingly polite -despite a stream of hectoring and insults
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tdracer sent:
Originally Posted by Rosevidney1
It might not be entirely true, but I've heard it said that Boeing has more corporate lawyers than designers.
Not even remotely true - off by several orders of magnitude...
So you say, however I was told this by an American whose firm was taken over by Bully Boy Boeing as he called them.
Originally Posted by Rosevidney1
It might not be entirely true, but I've heard it said that Boeing has more corporate lawyers than designers.
Not even remotely true - off by several orders of magnitude...
So you say, however I was told this by an American whose firm was taken over by Bully Boy Boeing as he called them.
Rosevidney1,
I can assure you, having been involved with Boeing legal and the UK Government Legal Dept, that tdracer IS right...
I can assure you, having been involved with Boeing legal and the UK Government Legal Dept, that tdracer IS right...
So you say, however I was told this by an American whose firm was taken over by Bully Boy Boeing as he called them.
Now, if you need it to be true, run with it. I’ll introduce you to a lighthouse story that’ll make your day.
Rosevidney1, just to pile on a bit...
Boeing has something around 20,000 designers/engineers. The corporate office building has several hundred employees, total.
Do the math...
Boeing has something around 20,000 designers/engineers. The corporate office building has several hundred employees, total.
Do the math...
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Says weekly that he learns of companies that Boeing own that he never knew about.
Speaking of doing the maths.
Contract values of $3Bn and $2.5Bn over several years, set against Boeing annual sales of $30Bn+ and a distinct absence of credible alternatives to P8 and AH64, do not seem to put Mr Fallon in a particularly strong position....
Contract values of $3Bn and $2.5Bn over several years, set against Boeing annual sales of $30Bn+ and a distinct absence of credible alternatives to P8 and AH64, do not seem to put Mr Fallon in a particularly strong position....
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Please read the very start of my very short message:
It might not be entirely true,
Should I also start correcting every piece of information that others write with their tongue firmly in cheek - or should I be really critical? Perhaps it is a trend.
It might not be entirely true,
Should I also start correcting every piece of information that others write with their tongue firmly in cheek - or should I be really critical? Perhaps it is a trend.
Not even remotely true - off by several orders of magnitude...
It was YOU that decided to keep digging.
Comment piece in today's Times:
I'm amazed he can write that with a straight face.
Boeing is committed to the UK and values the partnership, which stretches back almost 80 years. All of us at the company here in the UK are proud of the excellent support we have provided to the armed forces since the 1930s. We remain dedicated to that spirit of service in the future for those that risk everything to keep us safe. Furthermore, Boeing has doubled our employment here since 2011 and tripled our spending with the UK supply chain over the same period, to £2.1 billion in 2016. Indeed, approximately 18,700 jobs in this country are at Boeing or in our tier one supply chain.
In July 2016, Boeing and the UK government announced a long-term initiative for prosperity and growth. We remain committed to that vision and have begun to deliver on it already. For example, Boeing broke ground for our first factory in Europe, in Sheffield, in September 2017.
Boeing understands the concerns of the government about jobs in Northern Ireland. We share the government’s commitment to free and fair trade. Our petition to the International Trade Commission in the United States seeks to restore a level playing field in the US single-aisle aeroplane market. Brazil, in support of its aircraft-maker Embraer, has also raised a case at the World Trade Organisation against Canada and Bombardier in February of this year. The legal process will play out on this issue.
Boeing welcomes competition and Bombardier can sell its aircraft anywhere in the world. But sales must be made according to globally-accepted trade rules. We believe that global trade only works if everyone abides by the same rules of the road, and that’s a principle that ultimately creates the greatest value for the United Kingdom, Canada, the United States, and our respective aerospace industries.
We have no objection to competition, indeed it makes us better as we strive to continue to improve, to produce the best products and services to win. But competition must be on a level playing field. That is what this case is about. Boeing will continue to defend a level playing field around the world. Ultimately these shared values and rules of the road are what will deliver the greatest value to all in our industry, here in the UK and globally. This is why we have taken the action that we have. It is the right thing to do.
Sir Michael Arthur is president of Boeing Europe and managing director of Boeing UK and Ireland
In July 2016, Boeing and the UK government announced a long-term initiative for prosperity and growth. We remain committed to that vision and have begun to deliver on it already. For example, Boeing broke ground for our first factory in Europe, in Sheffield, in September 2017.
Boeing understands the concerns of the government about jobs in Northern Ireland. We share the government’s commitment to free and fair trade. Our petition to the International Trade Commission in the United States seeks to restore a level playing field in the US single-aisle aeroplane market. Brazil, in support of its aircraft-maker Embraer, has also raised a case at the World Trade Organisation against Canada and Bombardier in February of this year. The legal process will play out on this issue.
Boeing welcomes competition and Bombardier can sell its aircraft anywhere in the world. But sales must be made according to globally-accepted trade rules. We believe that global trade only works if everyone abides by the same rules of the road, and that’s a principle that ultimately creates the greatest value for the United Kingdom, Canada, the United States, and our respective aerospace industries.
We have no objection to competition, indeed it makes us better as we strive to continue to improve, to produce the best products and services to win. But competition must be on a level playing field. That is what this case is about. Boeing will continue to defend a level playing field around the world. Ultimately these shared values and rules of the road are what will deliver the greatest value to all in our industry, here in the UK and globally. This is why we have taken the action that we have. It is the right thing to do.
Sir Michael Arthur is president of Boeing Europe and managing director of Boeing UK and Ireland
