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Prince Harry can't fly helicopters (Labour Party Conference)

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Old 27th Sep 2017, 15:58
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Outrage aside, this is good news. There are plenty of dumbarses in politics - in all parties. And by dumb, I mean not top drawer in old IQ department. Many of them could not become a top lawyer, a fast jet pilot, a consultant surgeon, etc etc, because they just don't have the nous.

I realise I am generalizsing ofc, and that there are some very talented, high achieving intellectually gifted MPs as well...I would opine they are perhaps trending towards the minority in the modern era.

And one characteristic of blockheads in general is the way they react to short term success - arrogance, smugness, complacency etc. Watching clips of the labour party conference this week I was struck as too how much of that is going on...all sorts of random crap the Macdonald bloke for example, yeah my policies might cost the British economy billions...so what, who cares.

The British public absolutely hate this sort of smug complacent arrogance. Theresa May just discovered that...so did Kinnock in the early nineties.

Bring it on...they'll soon find out how that approach works for them at the ballot box.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 16:54
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Ah, the odious bint from the Grenfell management thingy whose fault it wasn't at all in the slightest when she was on it, but as a new MP is happy to run off at the mouth about the nasty Tory council. Cnut.

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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:17
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She might have shot herself badly in the foot here.
so she might qualify for a place the the Invictus games and could apologise to Prince Harry in person
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin
Only for professional academic who appears never to have done a real days work in her life.
Professional academic is a rather generous description there Not a Boffin. I'm not entirely sure whether History of Design would be included on a list of rigorous academic subjects and her aborted PhD in Spanish architecture during the Franco era sounds a bit more like a pet project than a useful academic contribution to life. On the basis that she has since come out to defend her statement that, paraphrasing, 'she was told it as an absolute fact, she just can't prove it', I don't think her level of academic attainment includes much rigorous analysis.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:04
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There were perhaps moments when it would have been wise to just let his father sit in the co-pilot seat and go "vroom, vroom", but Harry has done nothing other than earn respect for his military service.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:12
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I can think of 146 reasons Fonsini.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:07
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Originally Posted by XV490
CG – Why insult Cnut?
Soory, speelin error!

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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:30
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From Wikipedia (not the most definitive source, but I was in a hurry)... "She served as a council-appointed board member of Kensington and Chelsea TMO, the tenant management organisation which manages the council's housing stock, from 27 June 2008 to 31 October 2012.[10][11][12] In 2013/4 she was a member of the council's Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee.[13][14] She has been a member of the council's Planning Applications Committee since May 2013, and a member of the main Planning Committee since June 2014.[15] She is a member of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.[16]"...

Based on these appointments and dates, I would be surprised if the Grenfell job approval didn't have her name all over it.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:41
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Originally Posted by Cazalet33
Is Dent Coad an anagram?
Emma Dent Coad

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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:52
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Originally Posted by Photoplanet
From Wikipedia (not the most definitive source, but I was in a hurry)... "She served as a council-appointed board member of Kensington and Chelsea TMO, the tenant management organisation which manages the council's housing stock, from 27 June 2008 to 31 October 2012.[10][11][12] In 2013/4 she was a member of the council's Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee.[13][14] She has been a member of the council's Planning Applications Committee since May 2013, and a member of the main Planning Committee since June 2014.[15] She is a member of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.[16]"...

Based on these appointments and dates, I would be surprised if the Grenfell job approval didn't have her name all over it.
The Grenfell planning application was submitted on 5 Sep 2012, seemingly whilst Dent Coad was in post on the Tenant Management Committee. It was later withdrawn and resubmitted before being finally approved in December 2014 when she was a member of the Main Planning Committee. If she was so concerned she could have objected at multiple stages along the planning route.

https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/planning/sea...abs-planning-2

She has very little room to criticise anybody who has served their country on operations and continues to do so out of uniform. Wouldn't it be a shame if the media ran with that line of inquiry into who exactly is representing the good folk of Kensington & Chelsea on the public purse. A clear cut case of limited VFM if ever there was one.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 21:01
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Originally Posted by Melchett01
Seems such a charming lady, I'm sure her majority of 20 will increase next time round.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment in this thread I fear this is a distinct possibility given the current state of the Conservative party!
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 21:26
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I can think of 146 reasons Fonsini.
Funny how everybody else paid the price for that . . . bit like his carry on during his marriage. What a disgrace.

His sons however are an absolute credit to their mother. This Labour MP is also a disgrace, but it seems that's what they want.

Expecting anything 'decent' to be uttered by Labour is like expecting the media to tell the truth.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 21:56
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I knew the pprune outrage bus would be taking off on this...caught it just in time.
(a) She 's got the story from the rumour that Harry actually doesn't fly Apache. Or didn't. He was always in the front as the weapons operator. Nothing really wrong with doing either job IMHO, but its a story that's gone around for a while and may be true, or may be false....did he fly it or in it? its not rocket science. Y or N?
(b) How she is a disgrace?....she's an MP. They're all gob****es paid and elected to ask awkward questions and more.... among other things... right now ppruuners may be amazed to learn not everybody in our lovely land loves everything about Britain and how it works for some and not others. Including the Royal family. Expect more.
(c) Harrys recent work, and his whole attitude/body language and dialogue with the public and proles is absolutely fantastic- he is a true credit to himself, regardless of what he flew or did. HS.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 22:28
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did he fly it or in it?
Oh dear HS, you really have no idea about 2-seat operational aircraft do you?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 22:36
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I served in 3 Regt with him, it’s utter bollocks. Such uninformed nonsense is not what I expect from an elected member of parliament, what else is she completely wrong about?
Jesus people love spouting ****e.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 22:49
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Last time I saw a picture of Harry in uniform he was wearing AAC pilot's wings. Should clear that one up.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 22:52
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I'm the first to guffaw at the pprune outrage bus, but on this occasion I think that it is by the by. Whether he flew it, or in it, or under it, or on it, is completely 100% irrelevant.

The daft **** just very publicly insulted one of the most popular royals in a country that is light years away from republicanism.

She's a one trick pony and if he (JC) is relying on her to win one of his seats in 2002 he is up s**t creek in a barbed wire canoe.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 23:37
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"Somebody else will tell me whether or not that's true but I've been told that's an absolute fact that somebody sits beside him and drives the helicopters for him."

Oh FFS.. can I jump on the departing outrage bus?
Harry's a fine chap.
What a god awful old school trotsky-ite she is; who can't even get her basic facts straight.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 23:52
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
Last time I saw a picture of Harry in uniform he was wearing AAC pilot's wings. Should clear that one up.
But it doesn't for those who wish to believe this sort of thing. They will metaphorically tap the side of their nose and say 'Ah, but he was given the wings to make it look like he qualified as a pilot, when he actually got them for show because he's a prince.'

The same thing happened when he did his first tour in Afghanistan - suggestions that while it was claimed that he was a Forward Air Controller, he had - in fact - had to send his laundry forward; that he'd been in a tank [sic] surrounded by massed armour to ensure that his tank [sic] wasn't hit by anything; that he was protected by SAS bodyguards (whose number exceeded that of the ration strength of the regiment in one version of this claim).

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Ms Dent Coad, or a supporter of her views, isn't on the Jeremy Vine show repeating this guff at some point in the next day or so, with a recently-retired senior officer being invited on to explain why it's utter tosh being regularly interrupted by Vine to create the impression that the senior officer is part of the conspiracy...
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 06:47
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Originally Posted by Hangarshuffle
I knew the pprune outrage bus would be taking off on this...caught it just in time.
(b) How she is a disgrace?....she's an MP. They're all gob****es paid and elected to ask awkward questions and more.... among other things... right now ppruuners may be amazed to learn not everybody in our lovely land loves everything about Britain and how it works for some and not others. Including the Royal family. Expect more.
But she didn't ask the question did she, she made an assertion that wasn't true. If she had asked the question she would have known the facts.
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