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Old 27th Jan 2017, 22:22
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Did he wish you "kushti bok" for that?
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 23:44
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What should he have called her, Mrs. May?
Yes. His protocol advisers should have briefed him on this (not that I supposed she minded in the least).

I know that US presidents are hot on protocol. I remember Bush junior snapping "Who do you think you are talking to?" at some hapless reporter at a press conference when he accidentally called him "sir" instead of "Mr President".
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 00:57
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
Ok, so while we are at it - Mrs May is our prime minister. She is not "Prime Minister May" (or even worse "Premier May").
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What should he have called her, Mrs. May?
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Yes. His protocol advisers should have briefed him on this (not that I supposed she minded in the least).
Izzat so? Not sure I follow your reasoning.

Here's a photo caption from today on the BBC website that calls her Prime Minister Theresa May:

Prime Minister Theresa May will meet with US President Donald Trump just a week after he started the top job.
Prime Minister Theresa May to meet US President Donald Trump - CBBC Newsround

Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
I know that US presidents are hot on protocol. I remember Bush junior snapping "Who do you think you are talking to?" at some hapless reporter at a press conference when he accidentally called him "sir" instead of "Mr President".
Can you come up with a cite for that? Should he have asked 'Whom...'?

An incident with similarities occurred in 2009 when Senator Barbara Boxer interrupted Brigadier General Michael Walsh when he addressed her as ma'am in Congressional testimony.

Airline pilot Jim Hill wrote Senator Boxer a somewhat partisan letter in response:

Jim Hill's Letter to Barbara Boxer : snopes.com

Anyway, here in America we know we can always count on the UK for your continued support and we really appreciate it.

I am surprised that Ms. Wilson, if confirmed, will be the first former Air Force officer to become Secretary. Similarly, I didn't realize until recently that there has only been one Chief of Naval Operations who didn't go to Annapolis. Sadly, in his case, it didn't end well.

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Her husband is a retired Air Force colonel, her father and grandfather were pilots and she holds a private instrument rated licence.
In fact, according to the article linked below, her grandfather, George Gordon "Scotty" Wilson, flew in the Royal Flying Corps in World War I. That can't hurt relations between the RAF and the USAF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Wilson

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Old 28th Jan 2017, 08:32
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"She is the Rt Honourable etc etc...". Oh dear. No wonder the Americans think we're all up ourselves! What about Emperor Nero, Prince Harry, Mayor Quimby, Chief Wiggums....? Hair splittery aside, in general usage President Trump was spot on.

What's far more significant for this forum is her speech about limiting foreign military adventures to areas which pose a real threat to our own or allies interests, and that this appears to have met with strong agreement by the President.

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Old 28th Jan 2017, 10:06
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Can you come up with a cite for that? Should he have asked 'Whom...'?
No, only that I saw it on TV - can't prove it but I know it happened. Who or whom - not the point, just the fact that Dubya seemed offended by the apparent, but obviously unintended slight.

You can find all the references in print you like, but I have never heard a British broadcaster refer to or address the PM as "Prime Minister May (or Cameron, Brown, Blair, Major, Thatcher etc etc ). " Prime Minister" or "Mrs May (etc)" would be the norm.

(What is JB for, but for arguing the toss over entirely unimportant trivia? )
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If my memory serves, the only two Commanders In Chief of the US military with any experience piloting military aircraft were President G.H.W. Bush and President G.W. Bush.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 12:46
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I always appreciated the fact that President G. H. W. Bush had been a combat pilot with 58 combat missions - therefore as President he wasn't ordering people to do something he hadn't been prepared to do himself - he appreciated what the risks and responsibilities were.
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The PM is also First Lord of the Treasury.
Whilst 'Prime Minister May' is incorrect, I'd guess that "Good morning Prime Minister." would be OK.

Re Captain Wilson, I spent eight years in the RAF and, when I retired and became an airline first officer, no-one ever asked for my advice
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 13:12
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I remember Bush junior snapping "Who do you think you are talking to?" at some hapless reporter at a press conference when he accidentally called him "sir" instead of "Mr President".
Rats! There I was thinking that, when in doubt, sir or ma'am would get me out of trouble.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 13:20
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Airline pilot Jim Hill wrote Senator Boxer a somewhat partisan letter in response:
Bally heck! As we'd say where I come from: 'He didn't miss her and hit the wall!'
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