France lobbying against UK for NATO Second-in-command position
recceguy, Status of Forces agreements are common and have been around for decades. They are worked out government to government. For a recent example, the SoFA with Iraq could not be worked out to both parties satisfaction (2010 ish) so the bulk of our forces were removed as a result. You might be surprised at how appreciated American forces are in Japan; Okinawa is an interesting sub case since the local people still have axes to grind with the government in Tokyo and used the Americans based in Okinawa as yet another excuse.
The American and Philippine governments reached a joint decision a quarter of a century ago about changing our relationship, led by President Aquino's formal move to tell the American government that it was time for a change. So, it was changed and we turned over the bases. You are a bit late to the party on that one, amigo.
At some point, you might want to get that chip off of your shoulder. It's not a good look.
The American and Philippine governments reached a joint decision a quarter of a century ago about changing our relationship, led by President Aquino's formal move to tell the American government that it was time for a change. So, it was changed and we turned over the bases. You are a bit late to the party on that one, amigo.
At some point, you might want to get that chip off of your shoulder. It's not a good look.
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I am Conservative, but I sincerely hope that David Cameron never holds public office in the UK, ever again. Being now almost 73, what does it matter to me? It does.
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It's quite unlikely he'll seek another elected office but just out of interest, why single Cameron out in the context of this thread? Unlike most NATO member-state leaders he consistently ensured the UK contributed it's fair share to NATO, both financially and militarily. Are you suggesting the nice Mr Corbyn will show greater support for NATO?
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Originally Posted by lonewolf
local people used the Americans based in Okinawa as yet another excuse
http://www.globalresearch.ca/okinawa...marine/5528882
The American and Philippine governments reached a joint decision a quarter of a century ago about changing our relationship, led by President Aquino's formal move to tell the American government that it was time for a change. So, it was changed and we turned over the bases. You are a bit late to the party on that one
Philippines' Duterte to U.S. over aid: 'Bye-bye America'
I think you live in a world which is more than 25 years old. Time to open your eyes. Fortunately in my country we got rid of similar bases 50 years ago, thus avoiding the associated crime rate and "SoFA" agreements.
It's quite unlikely he'll seek another elected office but just out of interest, why single Cameron out in the context of this thread? Unlike most NATO member-state leaders he consistently ensured the UK contributed it's fair share to NATO, both financially and militarily. Are you suggesting the nice Mr Corbyn will show greater support for NATO?
recceguy, the US has bilateral agreements with over one hundred nations regarding mil-to-mil relationships and aid. Each is a separate agreement with that nation. When the government changes, as it just did in the PI recently, it comes as no surprise if the latest government wishes to change or adjust that relationship. That's politics as usual. I am up to date, thank you very much. What Duterte is doing is similar to what Aquino was doing back in '91. All that differs is that Aquino had a little more class than the current guy, who uses bombast to good effect: no surprise, it's a common political tool. I expect that our latest election will see an increase in bombast coming from our capital on a variety of topics, as Mr Trump looks to be cut from similar cloth to Mr Duterte: use of trolling as a political tool is a habit.
As to your being proud of France being "in but out" of NATO for four decades, but continually resorting to the whinge about "French is an Official language in OTAN" with noses dripping all the while, I'll write off the chip on your shoulder as stereotypical chauvinism.
I estimate that you know why the Brits still give you all the needle. You've earned it. I still like France, and I am glad that our countries are still allies, regardless of what a grumpy old man on the internet kvetches about.
As to your being proud of France being "in but out" of NATO for four decades, but continually resorting to the whinge about "French is an Official language in OTAN" with noses dripping all the while, I'll write off the chip on your shoulder as stereotypical chauvinism.
I estimate that you know why the Brits still give you all the needle. You've earned it. I still like France, and I am glad that our countries are still allies, regardless of what a grumpy old man on the internet kvetches about.
