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Old 28th Sep 2016, 12:36
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Hmmm, look like a bunch of suckers and fellow travellers......

"military veterans of World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, and other conflicts, as well as peacetime veterans and non-veterans but has since spread overseas and has a very active offshoot in the United Kingdom (which has effectively replaced the former 'Ex-Services CND' organisation).[1] The group works to promote alternatives to war. The organization has opposed the military policies of the United States, NATO and Israel, and has opposed military actions and threats to Russia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya and Syria....."
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 12:54
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What does VFP actually do?

Ah, ORAC, I posted without refreshing the page which had been loaded for some time. Your contribution sounds logical.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 13:07
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The Labour Party that brought in the NHS and many other social reforms was brought into power by servicemen who had experienced the horrors of WWII. What a betrayal those of them still alive must be feeling.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 16:04
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The Labour Party that brought in the NHS and many other social reforms was brought into power by servicemen who had experienced the horrors of WWII.
Wouldn't disagree.
The problem we have now with NHS and housing is partly due to crazy immigration policies. Yes I know we have immigrants and their offspring working in the NHS BUT we, the owners of OUR land, should have carefully selected those who were permitted to come to OUR country.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 17:13
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The problem withe NHS is that people are living longer, and demanding better treatments

Housing is partly due to selling off all those Council Houses 30 years ago and stopping the councils building any new ones. Oddly large Building companies prefer to throttle back demand and push up prices - and its easier for them to build one house for £ 1mm rather than 5 for £ 200k...................
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 17:30
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
The problem withe NHS is that people are living longer, and demanding better treatments

Housing is partly due to selling off all those Council Houses 30 years ago and stopping the councils building any new ones. Oddly large Building companies prefer to throttle back demand and push up prices - and its easier for them to build one house for £ 1mm rather than 5 for £ 200k...................
Yup, can't disagree with any of that either. (Has Mrs Bas been doubling up my medication? )
The council problem, I'd guess, was failure to replace those sold off.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 17:46
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Really? I'm shocked.....that all the right thinking proon elite has fallen for this in the same way The current bun did.

It is SATIRE you pillocks!!!

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The Sun has displayed its trademark stupidity yet again by completely missing the point of satirical art at the Labour Party annual conference.

The paper was apparently disgusted by a ‘sick stall’ on display at The World Transformed – a fringe event staged by left-wing group Momentum running alongside the conference.

In it’s article HARMED FORCES, the paper claims that the stall (pictured) ‘mocks crippled British troops with sick toys and comics’.

Among the items criticised were a comic book entitled ‘Join The Army – free prosthetic limbs!’ and an image of a ‘Paralysed Action Man’ figure in a wheelchair.

The stall was also criticised in an article that ran in the Huffington Post.

But this wasn’t some cruel attempt to ridicule forces veterans. The stand was run by anti-war comic book artist Darren Cullen who has produced a range of artwork aimed at drawing attention to the dangers facing those signing up for the armed forces and attacking army recruitment propaganda.

Cullen has many ex-soldiers among his fans and has worked in partnership with Veterans For Peace UK. His Paralysed Action Man was part of a parody series used in a Veterans For Peace campaign in 2015.

The Sun acknowledges Cullen as the person behind the stall in the article, calling him an ‘anti-military comic book writer’. But the paper obviously couldn’t be bothered to research his background, either that or its ‘journalists’ are simply too stupid to understand the concept of satire.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 19:09
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The council problem, I'd guess, was failure to replace those sold off.
That's because they weren't allowed to ring-fence the receipts for reinvestment in housing and the money was spent elsewhere.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 20:11
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And if you check my post #21 above, TURIN, I don't accept that either Cullen, VFP or Momentum are into satire and support the forces.

More in the line of those found guilty of any type of abuse who then feebly protest that, "it was only a joke".
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 20:44
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the Hillsborough disaster
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 20:54
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Whether you accept it or not ORAC is moot.

The fact is it IS satire and anyone who thinks otherwise is not thinking clearly, or in the case of The Sun reader, a moron.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 08:56
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Lynch Esther McVey, assassinate Margaret Thatcher.
All just wee jokes so that's OK then.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 10:21
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But as we know, under current law (I did not write it) "abuse" or "discrimination" is in the eye of the beholder, not the author. Ipso facto, if someone who is eg disabled is offended, it is "discriminatory". Might be daft, but it is the way the law is
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 10:27
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Sorry but I disagree. This is not satire; satire is (usually) quite clever. Whatever else this is, clever it isn't. If it is an attempt at humour, it should be left on BBC3.
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