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Old 19th May 2017, 14:45   #21 (permalink)
 
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You both are perfectly right about "awl". However, this nickname had double meaning. The second one was based on the homonym of the Russian word "shilo". Technically it means awl, but in some AF circles (but not in Navy aviation) it was a jargon word for the liquid (rich of alcohol) used in the anti-icing systems back in 60's and 70's. Tu-22 contained a huge amount of it (some 400+litres), more than a double of the Mig-25 capacity which was called "flying bar" for that. Therefore at a certain point of time all those liquids were replaced by "non-potable" ones. Game over, bars closed :-)

KenV, your considerations about old Soviet system make sense, but all this has nothing to do with nicknaming of planes. Similarly, Russian pilots do not have nicknames (call signes) either.

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Old 25th May 2017, 05:26   #22 (permalink)
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TASS: Military & Defense - Russia?s fifth-generation fighter jets to start arriving for troops in 2019

MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. Russia’s PAK FA (Perspective Aviation Complex of Frontline Aviation) fighter jets (T-50) will start arriving for the country’s Armed Forces in 2019 while the deliveries of the most advanced S-500 surface-to-air missile systems will begin in 2020, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Wednesday.

"The deliveries of T-50 perspective frontline aviation platforms from 2019 and S-500 air defense missile systems in 2020 will raise the efficiency of fighting modern aerospace attack means," the defense minister said in the upper house of Russia’s parliament. The implementation of the plans that have been mapped out will create a reliable barrier to "an instant global strike" by an enemy and ensure non-nuclear containment of any hi-tech aggressor, the Russian defense minister said.

"As a whole, the pace that has been gained will allow accomplishing the task set by the president of the Russian Federation and reaching the level of the Armed Forces’ armament with modern weaponry at no less than 70% by late 2020. This will allow Russia to keep its positions as the most developed state in military terms," the defense minister said.

The minister went on to say that the serial production of upgraded Tupolev Tu-160M2 (NATO reporting name: Blackjack) strategic missile carriers is expected to begin after 2021. "After 2021, we plan to begin the serial production of the modernized Tu-160M2 strategic missile carrier, which is capable of striking hostile ground objectives in remote strategic areas without entering the zones of operation of anti-ballistic missile and air defense systems," Shoigu said. A source in the defense and industrial sector earlier told TASS that the serial production of the modernized Tu-160M2 missile carrier would begin in 2020 and two-three such aircraft were planned to be produced each year.

The idea to restart the production of Tu-160 bombers in their upgraded version was put forward by Russian Defense Minister Army General Shoigu in April 2015 during his visit to the Kazan aircraft enterprise, part of the Tupolev aerospace company. In May that year, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave instructions to resume the production of these aircraft. Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said in October 2016 that 50 such planes were planned to be produced.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 11:05   #23 (permalink)
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PAK FA Fighter Jet Officially Named Su-57

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia’s fifth-generation fighter jet formerly known as Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation (PAK FA), or Sukhoi T-50, has officially been named as the Su-57, Russian Aerospace Forces Commander Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said Friday.

"The decision has been made, the aircraft got its name, like a child after the birth. Su-57 — from now on, we will call it that way," Bondarev said in an interview with Russia's Zvezda broadcaster.

The Su-57 is a single-seat, twin-engine multirole stealth fighter designed for air superiority and attack roles. It is equipped with advanced avionics system and airborne active phased array radar. The jet made its maiden flight in 2010. Yuri Slyusar, the president of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation, which is involved in building the aircraft, said last month that the first Su-57s could come into service in 2019.

Since its first flight in the early 2010s, the T-50, part of the Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation (PAK-FA) program, has receiving a vast series of upgrades to its avionics, stealth and armaments. On Wednesday, United Aircraft Corporation General Designer Sergei Korotkov confirmed that engineers are busy working on the creation of a next-generation engine for the plane, one that boasts increased thrust and fuel efficiency, lower cost, and improved reliability compared to the existing engine.

With six machines expected to be delivered into the Russian Aerospace Defense Forces by next year, the military plans to equip the air force with about 55 T-50 fighters by 2020, with mass production beginning after that.
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PAK-FA =SU-57

Now that it has a designation, all it needs is for the NATO naming committee to come up with a reporting name. Perhaps now is a good time to offer some suggestions to help them....
How about FECKLESS, FIASCO, FANDANGLE or even FORESK*N to start off with?
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F/A-22+F-35=Su-57 ?
Coincidence ?
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 07:50   #26 (permalink)
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FARAGE..........
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Old Bricks. Only two syllables IIRC.
Reminds me of the story about the Tu-16 making it's first public appearance over Moscow in the May day flypast of 1954. At that time, although well aware of its existence, we did not know whose Bureau was responsible (TsAGI was one rumour). The American Air Attaché "casually" inquired of his Russian host..

"Oh, and what's that one? "

"That is the aeroplane that you chaps know as the "BADGER", came the reply.
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