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BATTLE OF PALMDALE - 60 years ago today.

Old 18th Aug 2016, 15:02
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and the initial intercept occurred at 30,000 ft., the F6F drone was probably doing less than 300 kts. The F-89D Scorpion was capable of just over 550 kts in level flight.
You'd have to be an 'Einstein' to calculate how to employ unguided rockets effectively under these conditions......oh wait.

(BTW in the apples and oranges department, 550 kts cal is 1.36 mach at 30K)
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Old 19th Aug 2016, 08:39
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did anyone compare the cross-section of the Hellcat to that of a MiG-19?
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sandiego89 ... I have no doubt that the USAF had/has some very capable aircraft and indeed crews. I was thinking more in the context of their employment in CONUS, where perhaps they got/get rather less practice than we did/do in the UK.

Apologies if my comment caused offence.

PS: Glad to see the VA weather is cooling down a bit. Arriving 31 Aug for 2 weeks vacation/shopping in Alexandria
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Old 19th Aug 2016, 10:17
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I'm intrigued at the sort of spin that glorifies a whole series of ignominiously unsuccessful (bungled) slow time, unopposed attacks with state-of-the-art weaponry wielded by alleged specialists on a totally unresponsive target in broad daylight as a "battle".

Battle for credibility perhaps...
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Originally Posted by MPN11
sandiego89 ... I have no doubt that the USAF had/has some very capable aircraft and indeed crews. I was thinking more in the context of their employment in CONUS, where perhaps they got/get rather less practice than we did/do in the UK.

Apologies if my comment caused offence.

PS: Glad to see the VA weather is cooling down a bit. Arriving 31 Aug for 2 weeks vacation/shopping in Alexandria

No worries, thank you. Yes I think you will find there were some quality crews, and yes perhaps they did not get as many real intercepts, and fortunately no chance to sling Genies at a real massive bomber hoard coming over the top, but they knew what they were doing.


It has indeed cooled down. You should make a point to get to the Smithsonian Udvar Hazy complex near Dulles airport- not to be missed. Enjoy the visit!- Dave
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Cheers sandiego89 ... This will be our 22nd vacation in the area, so guess what ... been there, done that [and revisited the rather lesser one in the District last year]
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Originally Posted by Wageslave
I'm intrigued at the sort of spin that glorifies a whole series of ignominiously unsuccessful (bungled) slow time, unopposed attacks with state-of-the-art weaponry wielded by alleged specialists on a totally unresponsive target in broad daylight as a "battle".

Battle for credibility perhaps...

Perhaps consider it as sarcasm rather than spin or glorification. Note the "Battle of Los Angeles" also commonly known as the "Great Los Angeles Air Raid" a few years prior, which may have been UFO's, the Japanese, balloons or perhaps much to do about nothing..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles
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