New RAF Trainer
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Gallery at following link showing Embraer Phenom, serial ZM333. The Phenom will replace the King Air at RAF Cranwell.
EMBRAER PHENOM 100 - THE PHENOM - Affinity Flying Training Services
EMBRAER PHENOM 100 - THE PHENOM - Affinity Flying Training Services
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What's happening to the Tucano's then? It seems odd to add another type if they are staying.
We have a couple of Phenom based here and they look a bit "Tinny" so I will be interested to see how well they stand up to military use compared to the King Airs.
I note the Grobs are the Turbo Prop versions, bang seats and all.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...rocket-352414/
http://www.affinityfts.co.uk/affinit...istry-defence/
We have a couple of Phenom based here and they look a bit "Tinny" so I will be interested to see how well they stand up to military use compared to the King Airs.
I note the Grobs are the Turbo Prop versions, bang seats and all.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...rocket-352414/
The training aircraft will be the Grob G 120TP ‘Prefect’ for elementary flying training, the Beechcraft ‘Texan’ T-6C for basic flying training and the Embraer ‘Phenom’ 100 for multi-engine pilot training.
Thirty-eight modern, glass cockpit aircraft will be delivered in a phased approach over the next three years comprising 23 Grob G 120TP ‘Prefects’, 10 Beechcraft ‘Texan’ T-6Cs s and 5 Embraer ‘Phenom’ 100 jets – all featuring digital cockpits, exposing students at an early stage to the technologies they will rely on at the operational level.
Thirty-eight modern, glass cockpit aircraft will be delivered in a phased approach over the next three years comprising 23 Grob G 120TP ‘Prefects’, 10 Beechcraft ‘Texan’ T-6Cs s and 5 Embraer ‘Phenom’ 100 jets – all featuring digital cockpits, exposing students at an early stage to the technologies they will rely on at the operational level.
http://www.affinityfts.co.uk/affinit...istry-defence/
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... exposing students at an early stage to the technologies they will rely on at the operational level...
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I find it interesting they intend to use a jet for multi engine training. Are the majority of the RAF large multi engine aircraft not still turboprops, ie Atlas and C130. I would suggest it easier to transition a turboprop trained pilot to a jet than vice versa.
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I find it interesting they intend to use a jet for multi engine training. Are the majority of the RAF large multi engine aircraft not still turboprops, ie Atlas and C130. I would suggest it easier to transition a turboprop trained pilot to a jet than vice versa.
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http://ukarmedforcescommentary.blogs pot.co.uk/p/uk-military-flying-training-system.html
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PS First Grob in build here:
That M.17 bang seat is an amazing looking piece of kit - so small compared to its ancestors!
Could do with one of those in the 152...
...actually the 152 could do with a tiny turboprop and one of those five bladed props as well...
Could do with one of those in the 152...
...actually the 152 could do with a tiny turboprop and one of those five bladed props as well...
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If you read the link I posted the helicopter one is also coming up with different types in the offing.
Is its serviceability any better, from what I have heard 30% is not good enough.
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Oxygen and air conditioning in a glass cockpit TP capable of ops well above 10,000 would have been nice though.
But don't worry, I'm sure Grob gave the MOD/Ascent/Affinity a nice discount on the price by asking to remove the systems from the original configuration. Every penny helps...
But don't worry, I'm sure Grob gave the MOD/Ascent/Affinity a nice discount on the price by asking to remove the systems from the original configuration. Every penny helps...
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As it would probably involve a certain amount of redesign work to accommodate the RAF, you might find the savings were / are pitiful, remember the fiasco over the Typhoons gun, where it was cheaper to simply fit it but not at the time use it, rather than design and build a ballast system to replace it.
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remember the fiasco over the Typhoons gun, where it was cheaper to simply fit it but not at the time use it, rather than design and build a ballast system to replace it.