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Old 26th Jul 2016, 22:01
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I should think not!
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:12
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E-Fits released...
RAF Marham abduction attempt: E-fits released of suspects - BBC News
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:51
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Should stick out like a dog's b@@ll@cks in deepest Norfolk, unless they have six webbed toes that is.................
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 17:28
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I wore the Mudguards for 22 years myself. Delighted to hear this young Rock made short work of one of them. Just a pity he didn't kill him. Few blokes I worked with certainly would have.
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I don't think that its very likely these blokes live in Swaffham or King's Lynn. They were probably back down the A/M11 and in London within a few hours.

Always have a wry smile when these jokes about 6 toes etc come up. Whoever started that rumour about Norfolk had obviously never lived in West Cornwall!

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Old 27th Jul 2016, 23:02
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TTN - I totally agree. I lived in Watton for a couple of years and not once did I see the fabled 6 and or webbed toes.

I was surprised at the local farrier's roaring trade in the rasping off of head cones though

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Old 28th Jul 2016, 08:28
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I don't think that its very likely these blokes live in Swaffham
I'll bet that they can't even pronounce it!
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Old 28th Jul 2016, 11:45
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Now the cousins are known for their lack of humour and flexible use of ROE. May be our Forces should announce a change of policy, followed by the usual 'cannot confirm or deny' message.
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Old 28th Jul 2016, 14:13
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"Guard discovers three bad yins in the bushes, by the time he takes his five rounds out of the sealed plastic bag and loads the weapon, they have escaped in a car. One round fired as I recall... but it was long time ago."

Sounds like a tall story, completely against all the ROE.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 01:30
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"uaGrd discovers three bad yins in the bushes, by the time he takes his five rounds out of the sealed plastic bag and loads the weapon, they have escaped in a car. One round fired as I recall... but it was long time ago."

Sounds like a tall story, completely against all the ROE.
Think it was Shawbury, or Ternhill - this was in the 80s. Whether the guy got a shot off I don't know - but the plastic sealed magazines were fact. it was this incident which led to live loaded weapons from then on.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 06:24
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Ternhill incident

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Outline of incident at Ternhill (from BBC account, 20 Feb 89):

"Sentry (Parachute Regiment) spotted two men at about 0300 hours acting suspiciously.

When he challenged them, they dumped a sports bag - containing a bomb - and ran off. The soldier fired three rounds from his assault rifle but missed.
He raised the alarm and the barracks was evacuated shortly before two bombs went off - no-one was hurt.

The bombers escaped in a stolen car, which was found about 10 miles from the barracks."


[COMMENT: From what I recall at time, the biggest shock to the RAF was that the Army had armed guards/sentries: RAF was still (less certain facilities and specialist personnel) on unarmed guards/sentries.]

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Old 29th Jul 2016, 06:32
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Airpolice, it was 1989 not late 90's. Late 90's and everyone on guard was armed with mags fitted. Without giving away ROE your description of the event would not have allowed for opening fire.
The para however did but missed.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 07:57
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Jayland, is correct and that was the basis for Clegg' s conviction.

Regarding BATCO' s comment, IMHO the RAF policy was immoral. Give a man a gun, he becomes a target. No ammunition and he is a lamb to slaughter or She even.

In 1972, at Akrotiri, we had a high security alert and a exercise was called. Air Cdre Stacey made the decision that everyone would be live armed. Our 9mm mags had the bullets secured with cellophane, more a precaution against loose rounds.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 13:03
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Breaking: Sighted in Colchester?

https://twitter.com/bbcessex/status/759009912294821890
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 13:51
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maybe false alarm......

14:39 BBC Live

"Norfolk Police says it has liaised with Essex Police and is "satisfied" that a reported sighting of two men near Colchester barrack is not linked to their investigation into an attempted abduction at RAF Marham."
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 16:55
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Originally Posted by BATCO
Dan, J, AirPol

Outline of incident at Ternhill (from BBC account, 20 Feb 89):

[COMMENT: From what I recall at time, the biggest shock to the RAF was that the Army had armed guards/sentries: RAF was still (less certain facilities and specialist personnel) on unarmed guards/sentries.]

Regards
Batco
I was on guard duty at Cosford that particular night, and IIRC the alert state was already higher than normal, but in the early hours I remember being recalled early from foot patrol by an irate GC(we thought someone had seen my partner having a crafty fag), as we got to the VCP he asked us to unload(SLR but empty magazines) and then produced clear sealed plastic bags with full magazines to load. We were told the alert state had gone up and we were to search the OM area first. Not a nice feeling at all, OMQs patch was very open and easy to access on foot. IIRC we didn't hear about the Tern Hill attack until the morning(just as well really).
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 06:46
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Missing Honington airman

Hope to hell it is not connected with this and hope he is found safe

Concern Grows For Missing RAF Serviceman | Forces TV
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 09:32
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Possible but unlikley to been abduction - he was in civies

"CCTV footage from Bury St Edmunds shows he briefly slept in a doorway before getting up and moving away. Police believe he may have intended to walk home to the base at RAF Honington. He is described as white, 5ft 10ins, of medium build, with short light brown hair. He was wearing a light pink shirt and white jeans or trousers at the time he was last seen".

Hope he is sleeping it off somewhere but it,s now 4 days.......
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 21:44
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