RAF Whirlwind British Guiana
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I am former 'Self Loading Cargo' and now the historian of The King's Regiment. The attached photograph shows three Kingsmen, all identified, in British Guiana between September 1965 and March 1966. Can anyone identify the chap in the driving seat of the Whirlwind please? If he is not sitting in the driving seat, I would still like to identify him. If anything interesting is known about the aircraft I would quite like to know that as well.
If you wait a bit,Old-Duffer or D120a may be along; it was probably 230 Sqdn Det,can`t remember the Flight No.,and to me it looks like Eric Smith,or possibly Simon Pettit.If you have any more photos,they`d be most welcome,especially ones showing a/c registration.no.,as it is another `forgotten` excursion in far off places.
It was 1310 Flight,RAF.
It was 1310 Flight,RAF.
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Sycamore - I think it's probably your steely-eyed, lantern-jawed successor at RAE, looking just a bit younger.
Faith was XJ409, Hope XJ727 and Charity XJ430 - wonder what happened to them?
Faith was XJ409, Hope XJ727 and Charity XJ430 - wonder what happened to them?
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wonder what happened to them?
That site also has pictures of 409 at Rhoose in SAR yellow (presumably):
and 727 in Shawbury (2 FTS) colours:
727 was at Ternhill (CFS(H)) in 1970 - cos it's in my logbook a few times (me as a Stude).
[with apologies for any copyright infringement!]
Edit: Just seen Teetering's post, we were looking at the same time.
Courtesy of http://www.ukserials.com:
XJ409 - f/f 03/11/1954 as XD779, re-serialled to XJ409, d/d 19/11/1954, to Westland helicopters, Old Mixon 15/01/1963 for conversion to HAR10 standard, f/f 20/07/1964 as such, returned to service 05/08/1964, to Wales Aircraft Museum, Rhoose 13/06/1979 for display, to the Pump House Restaurant, Grangetown, Wales during 1992, then to Llanbedr, Wales during 1994, fate unknown.
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj409.jpg
XJ727 - f/f 29/12/1955, aw/cn 31/12/1955, d/d 03/01/1956, converted to HAR4 standard 03/08/1962 whilst serving with 22 Sqn St Mawgan, to Westland Helicopters, Old Mixon 10/01/1963 for re-conversion to HAR10 standard, returned to service 22/05/1964, to No.1 SoTT Halton 27/11/1980 for ground instructional use as 8661M, to RAF Manston History Museum 17/05/1998 for spares, to Richborough, Kent during 2007
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj727.jpg
XJ430 - f/f 20/01/1955, d/d 25/05/1955, to Westland helicopters, Old Mixon 29/06/1962 for conversion to HAR10 standard, f/f 25/05/1964 as such, returned to service 22/06/1964, to CTE Manston Fire School 16/11/1979, perished during 01/1990
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj430.jpg
Courtesy of http://www.ukserials.com:
XJ409 - f/f 03/11/1954 as XD779, re-serialled to XJ409, d/d 19/11/1954, to Westland helicopters, Old Mixon 15/01/1963 for conversion to HAR10 standard, f/f 20/07/1964 as such, returned to service 05/08/1964, to Wales Aircraft Museum, Rhoose 13/06/1979 for display, to the Pump House Restaurant, Grangetown, Wales during 1992, then to Llanbedr, Wales during 1994, fate unknown.
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj409.jpg
XJ727 - f/f 29/12/1955, aw/cn 31/12/1955, d/d 03/01/1956, converted to HAR4 standard 03/08/1962 whilst serving with 22 Sqn St Mawgan, to Westland Helicopters, Old Mixon 10/01/1963 for re-conversion to HAR10 standard, returned to service 22/05/1964, to No.1 SoTT Halton 27/11/1980 for ground instructional use as 8661M, to RAF Manston History Museum 17/05/1998 for spares, to Richborough, Kent during 2007
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj727.jpg
XJ430 - f/f 20/01/1955, d/d 25/05/1955, to Westland helicopters, Old Mixon 29/06/1962 for conversion to HAR10 standard, f/f 25/05/1964 as such, returned to service 22/06/1964, to CTE Manston Fire School 16/11/1979, perished during 01/1990
http://www.ukserials.com/images/ukimages/xj430.jpg
Last edited by chinook240; 13th Apr 2016 at 18:57.
According to the UK Serials site, 409 went to Llanbedr in 1994, 430 went to Manston Fire School and "perished" in Jan '90, while 727 became 8661M (is that an engineering training number?) and then to "Richborough, Kent" (??) in 2007.
That site also has pictures of 409 at Rhoose in SAR yellow (presumably):
and 727 in Shawbury (2 FTS) colours:
727 was at Ternhill (CFS(H)) in 1970 - cos it's in my logbook a few times (me as a Stude).
[with apologies for any copyright infringement!]
That site also has pictures of 409 at Rhoose in SAR yellow (presumably):
and 727 in Shawbury (2 FTS) colours:
727 was at Ternhill (CFS(H)) in 1970 - cos it's in my logbook a few times (me as a Stude).
[with apologies for any copyright infringement!]
Cpl/ Sgt Bill Marshall, engine bay RAF Tern Hill1968 to 1975.
H-M,only to those who never operated it...
`409 was at AAEE in`71,ETPS and `D`Sqdn hack,and `727 was still at Strawberry in `80..
Mandy,yes ,I think we were all steely-jawed and lantern-eyed..now it`s all a bit more `slack`....`all bets are off`...!
`409 was at AAEE in`71,ETPS and `D`Sqdn hack,and `727 was still at Strawberry in `80..
Mandy,yes ,I think we were all steely-jawed and lantern-eyed..now it`s all a bit more `slack`....`all bets are off`...!
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My thanks to the three researchers on finding the ultimate destinations of Faith, Hope and Charity. I was at Tern Hill in 1971 and now, having just looked at my logbook, find that I also flew XJ727 on several occasions.
Sycamore - By the time I got to AAEE in '74 they must have 'upgraded' (!) the D Sqn hack to a Mk.7 (XN385) - never saw 409.
H-M wot do you mean 'ugly'? Have you never seen a Mil Mi-1?
Sycamore - By the time I got to AAEE in '74 they must have 'upgraded' (!) the D Sqn hack to a Mk.7 (XN385) - never saw 409.
H-M wot do you mean 'ugly'? Have you never seen a Mil Mi-1?
Could it be Mike Betts?
1310 was an established flight and people went there for a six month or so detachment. There is probably a Form 540/541 in the National Archives and that will narrow it down to about four guys.
They all look so young!!!
Old Duffer - not being much help
1310 was an established flight and people went there for a six month or so detachment. There is probably a Form 540/541 in the National Archives and that will narrow it down to about four guys.
They all look so young!!!
Old Duffer - not being much help
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Indeed they were, GANNET FAN
Huey and Roadster,
They might look ugly but they were good for cutting your teeth on. As an LAC I was taught how to hover those things in the corners of Chetwynd and that minor skill came in handy for flying a Huey years later...not bad for a Rigga.
PS - Im sure '430 was also at Tern Hill/Shawbury!
They might look ugly but they were good for cutting your teeth on. As an LAC I was taught how to hover those things in the corners of Chetwynd and that minor skill came in handy for flying a Huey years later...not bad for a Rigga.
PS - Im sure '430 was also at Tern Hill/Shawbury!
When I was a snotty nosed APO at Tern Hill learning to fly the mighty radial engined Provost T1 the duty student was required to accompany the orderly corporal plus a couple of heavies and inspect the RAF sites that had fallen into disuse owing to the Germans surrendering. They had been kept going until the mid fifties and the inspection was to ensure that squatters had not invaded the premises; that's what the heavies were for.
They was one at Chetwynd consisted of a group of wooden huts with a tall fence around them that still had the standing orders and paraphernaliar dating from way back.
Five years later, learning to fly Sycamores it had all gone; just a grass field.
They was one at Chetwynd consisted of a group of wooden huts with a tall fence around them that still had the standing orders and paraphernaliar dating from way back.
Five years later, learning to fly Sycamores it had all gone; just a grass field.