Corbyn & Trident
We may laugh at all of these foolish ideas, but we should not be too sure that they will never come to pass.
All that is required is for the voting public to be sufficiently foolish and for the tories to make themselves look sufficiently incompetent. Both of these conditions are entirely possible.
All that is required is for the voting public to be sufficiently foolish and for the tories to make themselves look sufficiently incompetent. Both of these conditions are entirely possible.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
His ideas don't seem to be going down too well on the Grauniad, where he should get his best reviews. Just a couple of the more recent.......
raffine 13m ago
"I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus's garden in the shade," said Corbyn.
He continued:
"Andrew, we would be warm below the storm in our little hideaway beneath the waves. Resting our heads on the sea bed in an octopus's garden near a cave."
Marr paused, gazing at his guest, perplexed and yet mildly amused.
"How realistic is this?"
Corbyn's nostrils flared, the red mist flashed before his eyes. But his composure returned almost immediately.
"Andrew, the proposal is quite realistic. We would shout and swim about the coral that lies beneath the waves."
Looking at his notes, Corbyn remembered what Milne had told him to say.
"I can promise you that it would be a joy for every girl and boy, knowing they're happy and they're safe."
David Morris 15m ago
Corbyn didn't restrict himself to talking bollox about Trident, he also said we should talk to Argentina about the Falklands, and have 'backdoor' communication with ISIS.
Why doesn't he go the whole hog and really alienate the British voter. Maybe he could call Battle of Britain fighter pilots c###s.
Or be an ex chairman of an organization that said the French deserved the attack they suffered recently, and said ISIS were like the International Brigade who fought Franco... oh, sorry, he was wasn't he.
raffine 13m ago
"I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus's garden in the shade," said Corbyn.
He continued:
"Andrew, we would be warm below the storm in our little hideaway beneath the waves. Resting our heads on the sea bed in an octopus's garden near a cave."
Marr paused, gazing at his guest, perplexed and yet mildly amused.
"How realistic is this?"
Corbyn's nostrils flared, the red mist flashed before his eyes. But his composure returned almost immediately.
"Andrew, the proposal is quite realistic. We would shout and swim about the coral that lies beneath the waves."
Looking at his notes, Corbyn remembered what Milne had told him to say.
"I can promise you that it would be a joy for every girl and boy, knowing they're happy and they're safe."
David Morris 15m ago
Corbyn didn't restrict himself to talking bollox about Trident, he also said we should talk to Argentina about the Falklands, and have 'backdoor' communication with ISIS.
Why doesn't he go the whole hog and really alienate the British voter. Maybe he could call Battle of Britain fighter pilots c###s.
Or be an ex chairman of an organization that said the French deserved the attack they suffered recently, and said ISIS were like the International Brigade who fought Franco... oh, sorry, he was wasn't he.
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we should never laugh at the policies and idea's of a "extreme" politician.
the germans did so in the 1920s and look what happened there.
if the daft hippy cares so much for the "workers", I suggest sharing out the initial 40 billion between all 18000 and letting them spend it on british goods.
no doubt the lefty's could spin this scheme as good news for the economy!!
I have voted labour all my life but will not support this daft c**t.
FISH.
the germans did so in the 1920s and look what happened there.
if the daft hippy cares so much for the "workers", I suggest sharing out the initial 40 billion between all 18000 and letting them spend it on british goods.
no doubt the lefty's could spin this scheme as good news for the economy!!
I have voted labour all my life but will not support this daft c**t.
FISH.
Thinking about it, I think there is a use for the Trident boats, minus the Tridents
How about using them to offer 6 month mystery cruises. Just think "Where did you go on your cruise?" - "I could tell you but I'd have to kill you!"
These cruises could appeal to the super rich who are queuing up to be on Branson's commercial spacecraft. Come to think of it, we could turn the boats over to Virgin to operate - they may even make a profit.
How about using them to offer 6 month mystery cruises. Just think "Where did you go on your cruise?" - "I could tell you but I'd have to kill you!"
These cruises could appeal to the super rich who are queuing up to be on Branson's commercial spacecraft. Come to think of it, we could turn the boats over to Virgin to operate - they may even make a profit.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Even better, let Corbyn build the new subs as the core of a new British Space Force, pending the development of a warp drive to give them an operational capability.
It does, after all, make as much sense.........
It does, after all, make as much sense.........
Looking back at page one I see that the new boats would be in C & M, without the missiles or crews aboard. 'twill be a bloody busy four minutes to get the boats crewed, loaded and out to sea if Mr Putin lobs one or more nasty things at us.......
So now we get an option that involves no deterrent coupled with few if any of the savings offered by having no deterrent. And the potential to rebuild nuclear weapons capability from scratch so that we can hopefully deploy it within no more than a couple of decades of trouble flaring. What's not to like? Maybe we could also use the boats' advanced communications to broadcast a surrender signal if things start to look iffy.
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The whole idea of New Old Labour coming to power actually scares me. I've never contemplated thought that there could be a risk of going back to the days of pointless job creation, general strikes etc. It would make me emigrate.
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Most of us go to Remembrance Day . . .
I wonder what 'The Fallen' would have made of Jeremy's latest thoughts.
Ever since they fell, it seems as politicians have been giving away the very thing they fought for . . . free. All in the interests of Political Correctness and their version of 'Fair'.
I wonder what 'The Fallen' would have made of Jeremy's latest thoughts.
Ever since they fell, it seems as politicians have been giving away the very thing they fought for . . . free. All in the interests of Political Correctness and their version of 'Fair'.
What a complete and utter idiot this Corbyn man is. And I speak as someone who was involved in nuclear deterrence (nuclear armed Valiant, a yellow sun or two US owned laydown weapons when assigned to NATO, I did my bit) . Who knows what or who, the next enemy will be ? Is this really the best these muppets can dream up ?
What next, warships without propellors, aircraft without wings ?
What next, warships without propellors, aircraft without wings ?
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Corbyn the best campaign manager Cameron never had. No doubt he will eventually be appointed to that exalted position as a E U commissioner,as per most political deadbeats.
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Corbyn appears to be someones' village idiot!
I can't believe how niave he is!
I can't believe how niave he is!
Nuts?
Thatcher was well on the way to dumping FI, but Galterri jumped the gun and now she's revered. Look at the paper's, they're on line.
Corbyn is rightly questioning our role in the world. Do you really believe our Nuclear Deterrent is independant? It's not.
We're in a club where we can no longer afford the membership. Simple.
Corbyn is rightly questioning our role in the world. Do you really believe our Nuclear Deterrent is independant? It's not.
We're in a club where we can no longer afford the membership. Simple.
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As someone who should be a Labour supporter, I can't help but think the working man has been betrayed, by the unions back in the 70's and now Labour in the present. This clown is living in the past, with rose tinted glasses. Feckwit, the £3 voters may be behind you, but the vast majority of the British voting population aren't.
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That's an entirely valid line of debate, AR1. But it doesn't in any way dilute the insanity of offering to spend a squillion quid on a totally pointless (non)weapons-system.
AR1,
Thatcher and her advisors failed to recognise the threat that was coming and there were questions being considered about the FI. To say she was on the way to dumping them is a bit of an illogical jump.
Corbyn's position on this has nothing to do with the UK's role. It is simply about his communist, unilateralism. Nothing more, nothing less. This latest statement of his is just a cynical attempt to disguise his singular aim.
Yes, the U.K. deterrent is independent. It is also part of the NATO alliance.
Thatcher and her advisors failed to recognise the threat that was coming and there were questions being considered about the FI. To say she was on the way to dumping them is a bit of an illogical jump.
Corbyn's position on this has nothing to do with the UK's role. It is simply about his communist, unilateralism. Nothing more, nothing less. This latest statement of his is just a cynical attempt to disguise his singular aim.
Yes, the U.K. deterrent is independent. It is also part of the NATO alliance.
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There is nothing wrong with Trident without missiles or missiles without warheads.
I mean, do nuclear weapons actually work? In the YS2 we knew it was largely empty with a lot of electrical gubbins and a big dustbin inside, but was there anything in it?
It mattered not a jot as a deterrent provided we believed it did and provided they believed it did.
To say if it did I wouldn't use it, if in power I would keep it but empty was complete madness.
I mean, do nuclear weapons actually work? In the YS2 we knew it was largely empty with a lot of electrical gubbins and a big dustbin inside, but was there anything in it?
It mattered not a jot as a deterrent provided we believed it did and provided they believed it did.
To say if it did I wouldn't use it, if in power I would keep it but empty was complete madness.
"Do you really believe our Nuclear Deterrent is independant? It's not."
In my experience, anyone who feels they can make assertions such as this has not actually been fully briefed in to, or been part of, the nuclear firing chain.
It is telling that in 48 years of deterrent operations, to my knowledge not one former RN submariner who has actually had the mission of deterrence and delivering the Polaris or Trident system has ever come forward to dispute the 'independent' claim.
In my experience, anyone who feels they can make assertions such as this has not actually been fully briefed in to, or been part of, the nuclear firing chain.
It is telling that in 48 years of deterrent operations, to my knowledge not one former RN submariner who has actually had the mission of deterrence and delivering the Polaris or Trident system has ever come forward to dispute the 'independent' claim.