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Old 9th Jan 2016, 22:40
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AFPRB Petition

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Here is a link to petition asking to scrap the Armed Forces' Pay Review Body and to replace it with something truly independent:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104407

17,000 odd signatures so far...

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Old 10th Jan 2016, 01:02
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Already signed, along with a letter to my local MP!
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They always got my pip when they referred to the Government pay guidelines and modified their review rather than calling it as it is and forcing the Treasury to change the numbers.

Last time I seem to remember a proper review was when Maggie got in and implemented the review in full.

For many years there used to be equality between an aircrew sqn ldr and an MP. It wasn't the plan, just how it seemed to work out.

How would that affect pay scales if it was made official?

Match CAS to PM, match SAC to a Police Constable, and go from there.
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Signed. oh, whats that black Vectra pulling up?

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Match CAS to PM
I'm sure they will appreciate the pay cut!!

PM = £142500 (Basic pay....)
CDS = £245338 - £260355
CAS = £170292 - £190795 (Source : https://www.raf.mod.uk/community/mur...s%20Salary.pdf)

Clearly pensions, allowances, staff allowance, 2nd home etc are not taken into account (on either side!)
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You'll only get a really independent body if the Treasury can ignore its rulings

it's the Governments job to decide how to share out the cake - independent "awards" finish up like the sort of thing that handed 30% to the miners back in the '70's
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Independent.....you think you live in a democracy........Bwahaha.


Independent really means "Jobs for Mates".
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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk
I'm sure they will appreciate the pay cut!!

PM = £142500 (Basic pay....)
CDS = £245338 - £260355
CAS = £170292 - £190795 (Source : https://www.raf.mod.uk/community/mur...s%20Salary.pdf)

Clearly pensions, allowances, staff allowance, 2nd home etc are not taken into account (on either side!)
Pah!....chicken feed......


  • £411,025 Jill Stannard Chief Executive Cumbria
  • £396,143 Kieran Stigant Chief Executive West Sussex
  • £382,392 Peter Duxbury Strategic Director (Children, Young People and Families) Birmingham
  • £354,452 Paul Robinson Director of Children's Services Wandsworth
  • £327,984 Garry White Director of Regulatory and Democratic Services Fareham
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Old 10th Jan 2016, 14:32
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Just noticed, this petition has only 12 days to run! Go on folks, it is easy, online, just give it your support!

OAP
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Signed... Just hope someone listens.
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Was interesting to use the map they provide to see how many people per constituency had signed. Have a look at London, many constituencies have no signatures, the rest of the country all seem to have an interest apart from London. Why is this so?
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Maybe London is full of bankers, folk in service industries and people from countries other than the UK. I can't see many of them getting involved.

I've signed, but there's a long way to go. Let's hope it doesn't get replaced by something worse. I can't see any government installing something it can't control.
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Duly signed by myself, Mrs Smudge and all smu jets I could get hold of. Also forwarded to ex RAF mates. Let's hope it is given a proper hearing.

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Originally Posted by iRaven
Pruners

17,000 odd signatures so far...

iRaven
Mine now makes it an even 17,640!
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No politician ever takes any notice of petitions

there was a whole "yes Minister" on it
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One more !

When I were a lad (1938), an M.P. was paid the same as an Executive Officer in the Civil Service (max = £400 p.a.)

Now they are paid the same as an Assistant Secretary.

(2015 rates - Dept of Finance and Personnel)

Executive Officer £22696 - £25903.

Assistant Secretary £66850 - £78275.

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AFPRB

17672! and counting
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"When I were a lad (1938), an M.P. was paid the same as an Executive Officer in the Civil Service (max = £400 p.a.)"

They'd be the ones that cheered Neville C to the rafters??? Maybe a little more money is worth it after all................
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 16:08
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They'd be the ones that cheered Neville C to the rafters??? Maybe a little more money is worth it after all................
But also included WSC ....... (imagine the thumb is two fingers!)
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 17:16
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Thank you Danny, actually I see sqn ldr aircrew pay is at the same level and adjacent to that of an MP.

Strange that status or perceived status between officers and MP s is so different when pay grade is the same.
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