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Old 14th Apr 2015, 09:57
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it's about the most accurate term there is for a fighter aircraft powered by a jet

Considering that the Su-27 isn't powered by "a jet " ........
Right you are Haraka, should of course be 'Fighter jets' or 'Jets fighter'. Oh, wait....
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Russian fighter jet intercepts US Air Force reconnaissance flight

FFS people... Get a grip!

Anyone know anything more about the incident?
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 10:46
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Ha, High_Expect, thanks for saying it (though I admit I'm as much to blame as anyone).

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing new to report beyond @flightradar24 pointing out that the RC-135 had its transponder switched ON, so blowing a hole in the Russian argument that it was intercepted so as to be visually identified (though I still don't get why you need to fly within 20 ft to do that, but hey ho).
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Doesn't this twin engined fighter jet have Infra Red Track Scan for visually detecting four engined reconnaissance jets?
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
(though I still don't get why you need to fly within 20 ft to do that, but hey ho).
Because it's fun. If the RC was flying standard straight and level, and smooth as RJ's tend to, it's a stable "lead" for a bit of unbriefed formation flying by our friends in Ivanland.

Don't disagree that getting up close and personal like that is more risk laden -- see the foolish Chinese pilot in the early 00's and what happened between him and the P-3 -- but let me offer this idea:
most fast jet pilots are good enough at formation flying that they can pull it off without it being dangerous.

Should they? Were I his Ops officer, I'd have a word with him about his judgment.
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"Discipline would appear to be an unknown concept for the Russian armed forces,"

looking how green guys performed on Crimea during the takeover I'd have to disagree

they are still not up to NATO standards but far better than 30 years ago
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Ah diddums, did the nasty Russian plane make a scary noise? Tell you what, try flying a big aeroplane with red stars painted on it the same distance off the Florida coast as this was from the Russian Coast and see what happens.
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 18:06
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Ah diddums, did the nasty Russian plane make a scary noise? Tell you what, try flying a big aeroplane with red stars painted on it the same distance off the Florida coast as this was from the Russian Coast and see what happens.
Most likely a friendly visit from the Air National Guard, in a Viper.
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 18:48
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Most likely a friendly visit from the Air National Guard
So part timers with their fair share of cowboys
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FFS people... Get a grip!
No, we must get the important things sorted

Anyway, to be fair, do we know any real facts, and there was that little incident a few years ago with Chinese. You know the one witch resulted in the Chinese needing to help export one of your aircraft back.

So getting a bit twitchy about potential stuff ups may be reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf 50
Most likely a friendly visit from the Air National Guard, in a Viper.
Don't the FL ANG fly the Eagle?

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...and the Hawaii ANG fly the Raptor!!!
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 04:45
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The aircraft type isn't the most erroneous bit; it's the word "friendly"

"I don't get why you need to fly within 20'..." I'm looking at a picture of a Bear with an RAF Typhoon, at my best estimate, 20' off his stbd wing.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 05:21
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What was this RC-135 doing in the Baltic, anyway, and without transponder ? .... in fact they were behaving the same way as they complain than the Russians do, in the same area - except that US doesn't have a border in the Baltic (or in the Black Sea)


Being neither American or Russian, I therefore have the right to choose my friends.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 07:08
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What was this RC-135 doing in the Baltic, anyway, and without transponder ?
Read the thread first Reinhardt, and you'll see that it had its transponder switched ON.

This is how RT works - put the lie out there and Putin's useful idiots will propagate it.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 07:53
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Give me a good reason to believe in NATO more than in Russia !

and the fact that this forum is in English is not one...

Also please stop qualify as idiots people who don't share your point of view, that's not very mature.
Unbelievers in weapons of mass destruction in Irak were also called idiots 12 years ago, by the same people...
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 08:03
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Reinhart wrote,

and without transponder ?
The RC-135 was also in contact with ATC and broadcasting on guard frequency. The info was posted on a radio enthusiast forum by a Russian radio enthusiast.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...ml#post8942469
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 08:24
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Give me a good reason to believe in NATO more than in Russia !
See TEEEJ's response above.

Also please stop qualify as idiots people who don't share your point of view, that's not very mature.
Useful idiot is a term for people who are not aware that they are being cynically used as propagandists for a cause. 'Stalin's useful idiots' was attributed during the Cold War to those in the West who vocally bought into the myth of the Soviet utopia, but who were (willfully) blind to the repression, deportations, Gulags, etc.

I did not mean to refer to you personally as an idiot, but this may have got lost in translation, so apologies for that.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 12:57
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Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew
So part timers with their fair share of cowboys
Have you ever operated with the ANG? I got to work with a couple of their squadrons in real world OIF ops. Your assessment is bollox.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 16:12
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Port: Friendly, Starboard: Go Away.

I can't remember where I first heard this Port Side = Hello etc ...


I do have the photos taken in the Straights of Hormuz of Iranian P-3K's flying alongside our MPA's. Some of the passes to port included them lowering their undercarriage while waving and smiling.
The passes to starboard were usually from height astern and made at a greater speed although always conducted safely.


The same rules were not always applied by the Russian Navy, who were always a bit cavalier, although the Russian Air Force Foxhounds and Flankers behaved in a Port=Friendly, Starboard=Go Away fashion.


Curious to know if anyone other than MPA people experienced this ... or gave it any thought ... when it happened.
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