Collision Avoidance Systems
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Merlin TCAS
I am told that some of the Merlins ( the ex Danish ones ) had TCAS a fitted but as this was not fitted to the those aircraft built for the UK there was no budget to support the system.
I would be pleased to be corrected if this is not true.
I would be pleased to be corrected if this is not true.
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So all RW types from Gaz through to AH, including DHFS are fitted with xpdrs?
So all RW types from Gaz through to AH, including DHFS are fitted with xpdrs?
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Apologies, I need to word my replies better! Wrt xpdrs, how I should have worded the reply is - so all RW ac are being fitted with some form of collision avoidance technology/xpndr? This would then lead me to ask that for them to be effective it would require all ac to have some form of similar system, which we know is not the case, or even mandated!
Apologies, I need to word my replies better! Wrt xpdrs, how I should have worded the reply is - so all RW ac are being fitted with some form of collision avoidance technology/xpndr? This would then lead me to ask that for them to be effective it would require all ac to have some form of similar system, which we know is not the case, or even mandated!
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Yes, it's important to ask the right question if you want the right answer!
Most, if not all, UK military RW aircraft do already have a transponder because that has been an MOD requirement for many years. However, I'd say they lag quite some way behind the civilian rotary world wrt collision avoidance systems being fitted; I've been flying civilian TCAS 2 equipped helicopters since 1998.
Most, if not all, UK military RW aircraft do already have a transponder because that has been an MOD requirement for many years. However, I'd say they lag quite some way behind the civilian rotary world wrt collision avoidance systems being fitted; I've been flying civilian TCAS 2 equipped helicopters since 1998.
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Not withstanding the patronising tone of the previous reply, this is my point -
RAF training plane in near-miss with remote-controlled aircraft over Cambridgeshire | Daily Mail Online
Collision avoidance systems using a xpndr are not the complete answer!
RAF training plane in near-miss with remote-controlled aircraft over Cambridgeshire | Daily Mail Online
Collision avoidance systems using a xpndr are not the complete answer!
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CBTL,
I hadn't intended to be patronising, but I was perhaps teasing you slightly. You asked about transponders and I answered that question for you.
You then said that your question was about actually TCAS or similar collision avoidance equipment. I assume you fully understand the difference but you haven't indicated whether you are a pilot or not.
However, all licensed pilots (especially military trained) do, or should, know that today's collision avoidance devices cannot replace proper lookout, and conversely, human lookout is very much imperfect in the airborne environment. That's why it's a requirement to maintain a good lookout, using TCAS or similar when available to merely assist with visual acquisition of other aircraft.
The problem with remote controlled aerial devices is that they are usually very difficult to see due to their small size, they often move erratically and unpredictably and they do not operate with regard to the principle of see and be seen, or the rules of the air with regard to right of way, which are legal requirements for aircraft operating in the open FIR.
I hadn't intended to be patronising, but I was perhaps teasing you slightly. You asked about transponders and I answered that question for you.
You then said that your question was about actually TCAS or similar collision avoidance equipment. I assume you fully understand the difference but you haven't indicated whether you are a pilot or not.
However, all licensed pilots (especially military trained) do, or should, know that today's collision avoidance devices cannot replace proper lookout, and conversely, human lookout is very much imperfect in the airborne environment. That's why it's a requirement to maintain a good lookout, using TCAS or similar when available to merely assist with visual acquisition of other aircraft.
The problem with remote controlled aerial devices is that they are usually very difficult to see due to their small size, they often move erratically and unpredictably and they do not operate with regard to the principle of see and be seen, or the rules of the air with regard to right of way, which are legal requirements for aircraft operating in the open FIR.
