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Old 14th Jan 2015, 17:01
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A quick random search of the Gazette found this page from Oct last year, it appears to be "ops normal" to me:


https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...pplement/19426


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Well that's good news but there seem to be an inordinate number of names 'retiring' on that page alone, which might suggest that it relates to a mass exodus (redundancy) rather than a few retirees, which was the norm previously!

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Old 15th Jan 2015, 19:09
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It all seems just a little pompous, if I dare be as bold. And very dated.
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 19:40
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HS, you are talking tradition, or as someone said of the RAF habit.

To remove pomposity you would need to abolish, at a stroke, all the different regimental uniforms, mess undress, and any thing else that has no modern utility.

It was bad enough when the Air Force Lists were abolished.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 05:02
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I looked something up in latest Air Force List only this morning; not abolished, simply different.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 14:48
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MB, paper copy?

IIRC it went electronic at one point and J-class reserve were no longer listed and the Retired list was dropped.

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Old 17th Jan 2015, 05:31
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PN,

as I said, different. It's an electronic version on the RAF Manning intranet site, only serving officers and WOs listed as far as I recall.

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Old 17th Jan 2015, 08:06
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There are lists of serving officers in all three services at https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rces-list-2013 - not the AFL as we knew it, but better than nothing!
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 09:20
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A friend of mine in the medal trade had a complete run of Army and Navy lists dating back to the early 19th century. It had taken him years to put them together, and cost him a small fortune, but they were a fantastic aid to research. I'm wondering if since the AFL etc went digital they have been put onto CD ROM. If not, all this information will be lost to researchers in the future.
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 10:47
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It's an electronic version on the RAF Manning intranet site, only serving officers and WOs listed as far as I recall
But it was all the other stuff in the real AFL which was so useful. RAFR, VR, VR(T) and Auxies, Embassies, Group and Command staffs, TAVRAs/RFCAs etc etc.....

I wonder how much was "saved" to lose all that.
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I suspect JPA and the move from Innsworth both played some role in the move to a much reduced electronic version.
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MB, thank you and you're right on both counts. I got my post-nominal updated in one of the last paper ones. When there was a further change, as I wad not on JPA it was not possible.

At the cost of a little server space it would have been possible to refile retiring personnel to another list. Of course public access would have been denied under the great god DPA; that the Gazette, newspapers and HMSO had previously released such information would have cut no ice.
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