What got you here, won't get you there. The greasy pole.
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I hate to admit it, but my opinion of the leaders of the FAA declined rapidly as I grew into my forties and was still in. So maybe it was an age and experience thing? I grew older and wiser, or more bitter and twisted?
I really don't know. I simply prostituted myself until I got the pension I wanted then quit leaving them wanting more. Not proud of that but I felt I owed it to myself if anyone (the pension).
I would hate to work for someone like Karen Brady now, but I did work for a couple of Naval Officers I'm convinced would have liked to have been Karen Brady.
The two senior civilian guys I work for now came up from the bottom as it were, and are both pretty excellent leaders and managers but in a very unconventional style. I work now in very high intensity, higher than average risk-intense industry, for want of a better but poor phrase and these two really measure up when it counts.
Lost count of how many naval officers I saw being generally very unpleasant at us over the years, at times, very unedifying and undignified and man am I glad to say I don't suffer that these days.
So many managers in the military are snooty, snobbish, elitist and generally capable of being very rude to their junior staff - I frequently saw it and experienced it. Terrible. A bullying thing, without a doubt aimed at staff who cant really hit back.
It made me wonder if the military system was actually as good as it made itself out to be.
So I finally took the small money, but better pension and left for better things.
Strongly recommend anyone who works within a crap organization to get out and seek better employment elsewhere.
I really don't know. I simply prostituted myself until I got the pension I wanted then quit leaving them wanting more. Not proud of that but I felt I owed it to myself if anyone (the pension).
I would hate to work for someone like Karen Brady now, but I did work for a couple of Naval Officers I'm convinced would have liked to have been Karen Brady.
The two senior civilian guys I work for now came up from the bottom as it were, and are both pretty excellent leaders and managers but in a very unconventional style. I work now in very high intensity, higher than average risk-intense industry, for want of a better but poor phrase and these two really measure up when it counts.
Lost count of how many naval officers I saw being generally very unpleasant at us over the years, at times, very unedifying and undignified and man am I glad to say I don't suffer that these days.
So many managers in the military are snooty, snobbish, elitist and generally capable of being very rude to their junior staff - I frequently saw it and experienced it. Terrible. A bullying thing, without a doubt aimed at staff who cant really hit back.
It made me wonder if the military system was actually as good as it made itself out to be.
So I finally took the small money, but better pension and left for better things.
Strongly recommend anyone who works within a crap organization to get out and seek better employment elsewhere.
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Strange - on this thread some people are claiming that 99% of their bosses have been excellent, yet on other threads people claim that the mess that the services are now in is due to lack of leadership both in headquarters staffs and particularly in procurement. That does not equate. I know it is easy to blame Industry and the politicians for our procurement ills, but senior serving officers must take the major responsibility.
Regarding a possible shift in emphasis toward shorter working hours, this has been going the rounds for 25 years to my knowledge and probably longer. Remember tales of the boss of Daewoo going around his headquarters at the end of the normal working day and telling people to get out of the building.
Having worked for a number of senior bods over the years I must say that the USN Admirals that I worked for and met in the line of duty were almost without exception - outstanding. Unfortunately I cannot say that of their RAF equivalents where the outstanding guys IMHO were the exception.
Ministers 'didn't know Tornado from torpedo' over Afghan strategy - Telegraph
Regarding a possible shift in emphasis toward shorter working hours, this has been going the rounds for 25 years to my knowledge and probably longer. Remember tales of the boss of Daewoo going around his headquarters at the end of the normal working day and telling people to get out of the building.
Having worked for a number of senior bods over the years I must say that the USN Admirals that I worked for and met in the line of duty were almost without exception - outstanding. Unfortunately I cannot say that of their RAF equivalents where the outstanding guys IMHO were the exception.
Ministers 'didn't know Tornado from torpedo' over Afghan strategy - Telegraph
my version:
1. There was evidence that the task didn't work well.
2. It got the task 'done better'.
3. There was profit in it.
4. It improved things for the people doing the job.
5. Because I was advised told to.
1. There was evidence that the task didn't work well.
2. It got the task 'done better'.
3. There was profit in it.
4. It improved things for the people doing the job.
5. Because I was advised told to.
I'm sorry , it's basic.
If you find the Services a pain in the a***. Then get out!!! ( I did)
If you then find Civvie companies an even greater PIA. Get out!!!! ( I did)
Then work for yourself- nobody else to blame .
I did 25 plus years ago.
Never been happier.
If you find the Services a pain in the a***. Then get out!!! ( I did)
If you then find Civvie companies an even greater PIA. Get out!!!! ( I did)
Then work for yourself- nobody else to blame .
I did 25 plus years ago.
Never been happier.
Gentleman Aviator
The guys still working on plans or staff work at 1800 are often, in my experience, not very good at time management. But if you're very good at what you do and finish everything asked of you by 1500, it looks bad if you knock off early.
In his own words "If I'm not back in the flat in time for the Archers (1900 on Radio 4) and there's not a War on, then I've got something seriously wrong."
Of course he was replaced by the Scottish Gp Capt, who surprised duty staff on his day one as ACAS. When they arrived at 0700 to open up and - inter alia - "mark up" the morning papers, they discovered he had been in since 0630 ........
Discuss.......
