F4C versus MIG21
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I'm not sure what "data" you are looking at (Ps data would be a good start). You remind me of some folks I dealt with in the USAF who told my squadron "we don't need your flight test info we have our analysis". And as you told CM I can disengage anytime - and now is the time.
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Mr N,
I have no interest in WTF you are doing in the UK. I really couldn't care less, at a guess you are selling fake teacups or 'knocked-off' trainers. Now, guess what I do?
I have no interest in WTF you are doing in the UK. I really couldn't care less, at a guess you are selling fake teacups or 'knocked-off' trainers. Now, guess what I do?
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Evidence would suggest that, in part, you attempt to stereotype a culture on the internet and make vaguely racist remarks.
But I'm sure that's not the *real* you, merely the keyboard warrior you.
You're probably a very nice chap in person. Anyway, I choose to comfort myself by thinking this.
Evidence would suggest that, in part, you attempt to stereotype a culture on the internet and make vaguely racist remarks.
But I'm sure that's not the *real* you, merely the keyboard warrior you.
You're probably a very nice chap in person. Anyway, I choose to comfort myself by thinking this.
Jane
Curious how you're using comments from posters to arrive at your conclusion. The others here are pulling from thier own memory, some from having flown both to arrive at theirs.
There's nothing wrong admitting you're a defense journo type and not a pilot.
Yes, I also would like to know who offered a front seat ride in a F-15. Microsoft?
In an F-4 you could in fact turn with a MiG-21 below 250 kts by using approach flaps (1/2 flaps). In that condition you could actually turn in front of the MiG-21 if you were above him since he could not bring his nose up to track you.
comment of Bevo's which led me to make the observation regarding the nose pointing ability of the Mig 21 at low speed.
comment of Bevo's which led me to make the observation regarding the nose pointing ability of the Mig 21 at low speed.
There's nothing wrong admitting you're a defense journo type and not a pilot.
Yes, I also would like to know who offered a front seat ride in a F-15. Microsoft?
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Mr N,
As the F4C is no longer in service, how would you tackle it in your MiG 21? Your tactics must have changed for a 4/5th gen fighter?
PS. I need some 'pucker' Nike Air Jordan 7s if you have them. (Size 11, 9, 5 and 6 US)
As the F4C is no longer in service, how would you tackle it in your MiG 21? Your tactics must have changed for a 4/5th gen fighter?
PS. I need some 'pucker' Nike Air Jordan 7s if you have them. (Size 11, 9, 5 and 6 US)
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Gawd, it's like watching a pre-pubescent pissing contest against a wall!
I don't think Mr N has been at all disrespectful, and he has been taking incoming fire in the form of aircraft type or nationalistic parochialism at least as good as he has given.
Didn't we all learn LONG AGO that there is NEVER a clear cut answer when comparing aircraft A versus aircraft B?
Didn't we also learn long ago that, unless you know them personally, there really is no way of validating anyone's ID on the interwebs. So much relies on taking someone's claimed credentials at face value, but if you don't believe them, then don't. But so far you've all spent six pages challenging each other and getting, effectively, nowhere!
Now, back to my popcorn, and here's hoping I actually learn something in the next few posts and pages.
I don't think Mr N has been at all disrespectful, and he has been taking incoming fire in the form of aircraft type or nationalistic parochialism at least as good as he has given.
Didn't we all learn LONG AGO that there is NEVER a clear cut answer when comparing aircraft A versus aircraft B?
Didn't we also learn long ago that, unless you know them personally, there really is no way of validating anyone's ID on the interwebs. So much relies on taking someone's claimed credentials at face value, but if you don't believe them, then don't. But so far you've all spent six pages challenging each other and getting, effectively, nowhere!
Now, back to my popcorn, and here's hoping I actually learn something in the next few posts and pages.
So Mr Noritake has been banned.
Good to see this forum has no place for people expressing contrary points of view in a witty and tounge-in-cheek manner, responding to sometimes purile and often offensive put downs with good grace and humour.
Definitely no place on PPRuNe for that kind of behaviour.
Good to see this forum has no place for people expressing contrary points of view in a witty and tounge-in-cheek manner, responding to sometimes purile and often offensive put downs with good grace and humour.
Definitely no place on PPRuNe for that kind of behaviour.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Jaj, he demonstrated concisely how he did not fit the room definition of military professionals.
I know we welcome others too such as declared journalists, broadcasters, enthusiastic civilians, and crusty has-beens like me. When you fit none of these categories you stand in danger of being ejected. He didn't and he w a s.
I know we welcome others too such as declared journalists, broadcasters, enthusiastic civilians, and crusty has-beens like me. When you fit none of these categories you stand in danger of being ejected. He didn't and he w a s.
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Originally Posted by West Coast
Curious how you're using comments from posters to arrive at your conclusion.
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Jaj, he demonstrated concisely how he did not fit the room definition of military professionals.
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