2 x Eurofighters + 1 x Apache
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Just out of interest, we have had a single Apache being circled by 2 Eurofighters flying North and South over North Dorset reasonably low level
Wonder what was going on?
TC
Wonder what was going on?
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Come on, Ken - who would want to photograph a Helicopeter.............?
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Herod - Different colour Wessex from the one I used to fly!!
Thanks guys for the response. We have a lot of night helo activity over us in North Dorset at the mo
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Thanks guys for the response. We have a lot of night helo activity over us in North Dorset at the mo
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Practice QRA is a possible answer. Saw something similar near to home in the run-up to the 2012 Olympics, although the slow moving 'target' being circled in that case was a small light aircraft drafted in for the purpose.
Another possibility is dissimilar air-to-air combat simulation (someone will provide the correct description and acronym I'm sure - DAC?).
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Another possibility is dissimilar air-to-air combat simulation (someone will provide the correct description and acronym I'm sure - DAC?).
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2 x Eurofighters + 1 x Apache
Engaging a helicopter with a fighter is somewhat more difficult than you might imagine.
Prior to the Bosnia deployment the AD force spent quite a lot of effort practicing against a variety of different helicopters.
It's conceivable the other teams in Syria/ Iraq may be using helicopters so now may be a good time for a refresher course!
Prior to the Bosnia deployment the AD force spent quite a lot of effort practicing against a variety of different helicopters.
It's conceivable the other teams in Syria/ Iraq may be using helicopters so now may be a good time for a refresher course!
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Another possibility is dissimilar air-to-air combat simulation (someone will provide the correct description and acronym I'm sure - DAC?).."
And yes, making a gun attack on a helo gunship (that has a turret) with a fighter is not easy. Your best bet is to stay out of range of the helo's gun and use a missile, preferrably a radar guided one rather than IR.
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Herod - Different colour Wessex from the one I used to fly!!
Ref fighter v helo, the MOD did trials back in the late sixties. Admittedly it was against guns not missiles, but 1v1 seemed to work by turning towards the fighter until his dive angle/pull-out height forced him to break off. 2v1 a whole different ball game; the helo didn't stand a chance.
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2 fast jets and 1 helo sounds like like a basic training evolution to me, a building block to something more advanced. Either building on counter helo air to air or escort and integrated attack (since it was an Apache).
Herod,
Boll*cks! Done shed loads of 1v2 against Hawk, Alfa Jet, F15, F3 and Typhoon. Won a lot more than I lost.....suggest you look at this....
J-CATCH - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just because it's fast doesn't mean it's good.....the FJ crews require a lot of specialised trg to be effective against a Helo.
Boll*cks! Done shed loads of 1v2 against Hawk, Alfa Jet, F15, F3 and Typhoon. Won a lot more than I lost.....suggest you look at this....
J-CATCH - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just because it's fast doesn't mean it's good.....the FJ crews require a lot of specialised trg to be effective against a Helo.
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I did loads of fighter affil in Germany against all sorts of different jets and in various configurations 1v1,1v2 and some total furballs. One of the best Sqns was the Alpha Jets from Oldenburg (431foxes)but it was one of their prime roles in the CW days.
The hardest thing for the jets was to try and finds us in the first place. Bearing in mind that we were in a pre determined box we invariably had to climb to well above our normal operating heights and put all lights on
This is possibly what the Apache was doing before the fun ......sorry.....training began
The hardest thing for the jets was to try and finds us in the first place. Bearing in mind that we were in a pre determined box we invariably had to climb to well above our normal operating heights and put all lights on
This is possibly what the Apache was doing before the fun ......sorry.....training began