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Old 20th Nov 2014, 09:46
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I did say that that one was trivial! Perhaps the film showing the team of 5 position every ship in the Atlantic within an hour or so of getting the machine to work was more of a howler - given that the Kriegsmarine used a different 4 rotor version of the enigma (and it took the capture of German code books to defeat this).
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and not forgetting all the military Y-service operators and their civilian counterparts who provided the raw material for Bletchley to play with
Indeed, and with the RAF making a not insignificant contribution through the site at RAF Chicksands!
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CoffmanStarter, Thanks for the tip. I'd wondered if it would be interesting.
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Obviously I am missing the point somewhere - tin hat run over by a......whatever it was - or is that that whatever ran over the tin hat was not in service then - ie the "Routemaster" issue!
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Wander, correct, just the big cheese demonstrating his trivia knowledge. It would have been II and not IV.
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PN - not necessarily - had the Pz IV been an Ausf F2, a "special", (or earlier) and the British helmet been in the desert then fair enough! As it was, an obvious CGI of a tank that came into being in 1943 and would not have faced the British until later in the year (and even then, not painted grey) was used to demonstrate Britain's low ebb in 1941. A symbolic moment but not a plausible one.


Perhaps they used a newspaper reporter from the Guardian to identify the equipment? I was only doing for tanks what countless contributors have done for aircraft on previous threads.
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That will be like the Friedland door chime and up-and-over garage door in the BoB film then
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Oh good grief the Blenheim has just flown again at Duxford.
Apologises for horrendous drift.
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nW66 - I guess that "drift" is permissible - great news
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Thanks for that! I am indeed a "rivet counter". (Particularly in the road wheels for German WW2 AFVs)! I once told the curator of Bovington that they had labelled their PzIV special as an F2, when it clearly had escape hatches in the lower superstructure and the gun had a double baffle muzzle brake! It now carries the correct designation.
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The long winter night shifts must fly by only kidding.
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Thanks for that! I am indeed a "rivet counter"
Snap in the case of any project I'm involved in.

The Aircraft one is a bit of a hoot as well.

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'Concorde, X-15, what the hell's the difference?'

To be honest, the only TV program or film drama that covered scientific achievements in WWII with any accuracy in my view, was the mini series that the BBC (and others) did about Oppenheimer in the early 1980s. Of course having a project that was stuffed with a number of people with huge ego's as the Manhattan Project did make invented drama totally unnecessary.

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Drift, aye, the Gibraltar Siege Tunnel had a late WW 2 helmet on a couple of Manikins and back to front to boot. They have the Mk 3 now
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My father's WW2 ARP helmet and our gas masks were all junked. Should have kept them for the grandkids.
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My father's WW2 ARP helmet and our gas masks were all junked. Should have kept them for the grand kids.
Mechta Minor took a home guard gas mask and helmet into school when they were doing WWII in history. Turns out they all had a go with the gas mask. Not sure the parents would have been too happy if they had known about the asbestos in the filter...

With regard to the tank/helmet authenticity issue; given how little the tank had sunk into the ground before reaching the helmet, I rather doubt a helmet could take 25 tons of tank without being flattened.
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IIRC it was the Poles who first started on Enigma well before the war and GCHQ built on their work - the special genius of the British as to build computing machines to speed up the decoding

And of course the British used women, gays, refugees, foreigners, Jews and all sorts of what the Germans labeled "undesirables" in the work - a whole pool of immense talent that was denied to the Germans due to ideology
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"With regard to the tank/helmet authenticity issue; given how little the tank had sunk into the ground before reaching the helmet, I rather doubt a helmet could take 25 tons of tank without being flattened"

if there had been a British Guardsman inside the helmet it would have been pristine.......................
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And of course the British used women, gays, refugees, foreigners, Jews and all sorts of what the Germans labeled "undesirables" in the work - a whole pool of immense talent that was denied to the Germans due to ideology
Isn't that part of the story in this film, that despite Turing having contributed so much to the allied victory , once he was outed he was convicted for being a homosexual, and ultimately killed himself as a result?
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