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Looks like Brize have got their hands on their shiny new toy.
ZM400 arrives into Brize ? FighterControl ? Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast
ZM400 arrives into Brize ? FighterControl ? Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast
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Still - as long as it delivers (literally..)
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Very nice, but the warning line for the prop arc seems a bit OTT.
I wonder how much extra sales will be generated as she gets seen around the world plying her trade.
Finally something to take the capability void left by the Belfast, a mid range lifter that slots in between the Herc and a C17.
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I wonder how much extra sales will be generated as she gets seen around the world plying her trade.
Finally something to take the capability void left by the Belfast, a mid range lifter that slots in between the Herc and a C17.
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And a Herc isn't exactly a thing of beauty.
Interesting seeing it from the front.
Those horizontal stabs sure are big - so's the tail.
I wonder if there's growth factored into the airframe - in total that empennage sort of looks like it belongs on a longer fuse...
Those horizontal stabs sure are big - so's the tail.
I wonder if there's growth factored into the airframe - in total that empennage sort of looks like it belongs on a longer fuse...
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Probably refers to the refuelling probe.
Even the Herc fresh out of the factory looked a dogs dinner at the front until it evolved with the radar.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/1163487610/
Even the Herc fresh out of the factory looked a dogs dinner at the front until it evolved with the radar.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/1163487610/
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Tail on upside down!
To reply to simply the beast...
I have a memory of the time when the designs for the aircraft were being distributed around. There was a very similar design to this one, which had the elevators in-line with the wings. This aircraft had prop engines.
An alternative version had jet engines and, consequently, the elevators were lifted above the wing line. Of course, because a committee decided on which design was better they decided that they liked the present aircraft but wanted prop engines!
I seem to remember it was the Germans who insisted that their design was used ( ie a high tail) but ( stupidly, I think) not with jet engines. In the Herc, one had greatly increased elevator authority at slow speeds because of the prop wash over them. This was particularly handy during para drops or tactical landings.
Not sure why they have dispensed with this; maybe because modern fly-by-wire systems can cope much better?
I have a memory of the time when the designs for the aircraft were being distributed around. There was a very similar design to this one, which had the elevators in-line with the wings. This aircraft had prop engines.
An alternative version had jet engines and, consequently, the elevators were lifted above the wing line. Of course, because a committee decided on which design was better they decided that they liked the present aircraft but wanted prop engines!
I seem to remember it was the Germans who insisted that their design was used ( ie a high tail) but ( stupidly, I think) not with jet engines. In the Herc, one had greatly increased elevator authority at slow speeds because of the prop wash over them. This was particularly handy during para drops or tactical landings.
Not sure why they have dispensed with this; maybe because modern fly-by-wire systems can cope much better?
Moving the void
Nutloose
"Finally something to take the capability void left by the Belfast, a mid range lifter that slots in between the Herc and a C17."
Only in RAF service it doesn't slot in there. To help fill the 'Defence black hole' our A400 are not complementing the Herc capability but replacing it.
Got an important (to you) load? Too much for a CH47? You'll soon have to wait until the next A400 is filled.
Regards
Batco
"Finally something to take the capability void left by the Belfast, a mid range lifter that slots in between the Herc and a C17."
Only in RAF service it doesn't slot in there. To help fill the 'Defence black hole' our A400 are not complementing the Herc capability but replacing it.
Got an important (to you) load? Too much for a CH47? You'll soon have to wait until the next A400 is filled.
Regards
Batco
From the comments on the link
Brian May said
Personally I incline more to the "gopping" than "the nads" myself, but who cares if the thing works? Great to see the RAF getting some new kit.
That looks the nads that does 
What a gopping looking aeroplane