MoD looking at pulling Clyde frigate contract and giving it to the French
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MoD looking at pulling Clyde frigate contract and giving it to the French
Surprised if it happens, do the modern ones still carry a helicopter?
MoD considers pulling £4bn Clyde frigate contract - The Scotsman
MoD considers pulling £4bn Clyde frigate contract - The Scotsman
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They will be burning kilts and claymores if that happens.
Still, Scotland wants to be as foreign as France (apart from the wine and cheese) so this is what happens, I guess.
Still, Scotland wants to be as foreign as France (apart from the wine and cheese) so this is what happens, I guess.
I think he means 37.8% of the country voted for independence (which is 44.7% of the 84.6% that bothered to turn out and vote). When looked at it like this with 15.4% of the Country not being arsed to turn up and vote, then Sturgeon and her cronies still have a long way to go if the 15.4% is a "no" to independence.
Still decisions to buy from France seems like a bad idea unless:
A. Their boats are heaps better than ours?
B. Their boats are heaps cheaper than ours with same capability?
If either of A or B cannot be answered to UK's advantage, then it is a truly dumb idea.
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Still decisions to buy from France seems like a bad idea unless:
A. Their boats are heaps better than ours?
B. Their boats are heaps cheaper than ours with same capability?
If either of A or B cannot be answered to UK's advantage, then it is a truly dumb idea.
LJ
It's odd. If the MoD blindly goes with BAES regardless of cost and the inevitable over-runs they are accused of failing to get value for money for the tax payer. If the MoD even considers going elsewhere because of cost, they are pilloried for failing to support industry on the Clyde.
Any referendum promise could never have been a blank cheque. Imagine how that would run. "Yes, we'll buy from you no matter what as long as it's a NO vote." "OK, fifty squillion quid." "No problem." Yeah, right.
Any referendum promise could never have been a blank cheque. Imagine how that would run. "Yes, we'll buy from you no matter what as long as it's a NO vote." "OK, fifty squillion quid." "No problem." Yeah, right.
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Thanks for clarify my statement, Leon.
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Daysleeper, is it not true that an ASW is designated as Frigate and an AAW platform as a Destroyer?
Both are the size of light cruisers.
Both are the size of light cruisers.
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Thanks for clarify my statement, Leon.
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Didn't one of the ministers say, in the run-up to the referendum "We certainly wouldn't be having the rUK's warships being built in a foreign country"?
This plays right into the SNPs hands on a number of levels. Not just reneging on past promises but assuredly doing their work for them too.
One of the obvious drawbacks of independence was the inevitable demise of the Scottish shipbuilding industry. If this is now effected by a Tory Westminster government instead, it frees the SNP from this culpability and simultaneously alienates some of those who voted against them.
But this is merely typical of the cul de sac Westminster managed to park itself in with a whole host of 11th hour promises and has happily forgotten. Scotland expects concrete reform by January and we havent seen anything yet.
Wakey wakey......seconds away Round 2.
One of the obvious drawbacks of independence was the inevitable demise of the Scottish shipbuilding industry. If this is now effected by a Tory Westminster government instead, it frees the SNP from this culpability and simultaneously alienates some of those who voted against them.
But this is merely typical of the cul de sac Westminster managed to park itself in with a whole host of 11th hour promises and has happily forgotten. Scotland expects concrete reform by January and we havent seen anything yet.
Wakey wakey......seconds away Round 2.
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1SL went a bit off script, albeit probably a well intentioned attempt to put some negotiating pressure on BAe. BAe isn't known for coming in cheap, as we know, notwithstanding that much of the kit on T26 (eg radar, sonar, missiles) will be pulled though from upgraded T23s. Following a slight delay, expect orders to be announced with a flourish in the run up to the election - for ships built in Scotland, which has never been in question, referendum aside.
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I think The Scotsman is just stirring it.