AAR Then & Now ...
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Beags,
Thanks for the response, I couldn't remember whether all crew had a repeater or not. Whilst I see that the plan can be continuously printed off as it updates until you run out of paper or ink, it seems a shame not to present realtime graphic information to all those on the flight deck if only for SA. I presume the 310 system doesn't overlay JTIDS either?
Clearly the A330 system is still in the roll out period, and I know your thoughts about the system; you have been telling me for the last 5 years! We are now beginning to work out the SOPs for system utilisation. I feel this stage will be critical to how we can optimise the system we have. Like any, it has limitations, and yes it should have been here years ago, but it will be interesting to compare to the 310 system in years to come using real evidence from the user community rather than rumour and hearsay (I know the we are on a rumour site before someone starts!!)
Starting soon hopefully and looking forward to stepping into the 21st Century! Really need to stop being one of those staff weasels
3Eng
Thanks for the response, I couldn't remember whether all crew had a repeater or not. Whilst I see that the plan can be continuously printed off as it updates until you run out of paper or ink, it seems a shame not to present realtime graphic information to all those on the flight deck if only for SA. I presume the 310 system doesn't overlay JTIDS either?
Clearly the A330 system is still in the roll out period, and I know your thoughts about the system; you have been telling me for the last 5 years! We are now beginning to work out the SOPs for system utilisation. I feel this stage will be critical to how we can optimise the system we have. Like any, it has limitations, and yes it should have been here years ago, but it will be interesting to compare to the 310 system in years to come using real evidence from the user community rather than rumour and hearsay (I know the we are on a rumour site before someone starts!!)
Starting soon hopefully and looking forward to stepping into the 21st Century! Really need to stop being one of those staff weasels
3Eng
The A310 system could certainly overlay Link information and the processors have always had spare capacity with that in mind. The screen layout has also been designed with Link data field areas as a future option. However, the end users are currently looking at an alternative, less elegant solution.
I haven't seen whether the crew actually use the cockpit ACARS printer for plan updates - or if they do, how often. At least one nation seems to expect the ARO/FRS just to get on with the job and to spoon feed the pilots with anything they need to know - which at least ensures that they look out of the windows for most of the time!
Although Airbus tried to lay down the AAR techniques in the early days, the end users decided that they would use the synergy of their own views and other AAR operators' experience instead. So the system design was heavily influenced by experienced operators rather than by civil airliner engineers!
Enjoy brushing off the dust of the Brizzle Waterworks and getting airborne again!
Maybe see you in Spain if we ever get a reply.....
I haven't seen whether the crew actually use the cockpit ACARS printer for plan updates - or if they do, how often. At least one nation seems to expect the ARO/FRS just to get on with the job and to spoon feed the pilots with anything they need to know - which at least ensures that they look out of the windows for most of the time!
Although Airbus tried to lay down the AAR techniques in the early days, the end users decided that they would use the synergy of their own views and other AAR operators' experience instead. So the system design was heavily influenced by experienced operators rather than by civil airliner engineers!
Enjoy brushing off the dust of the Brizzle Waterworks and getting airborne again!
Maybe see you in Spain if we ever get a reply.....
