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It would appear the Tristars are off to the States

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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 11:22
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It would appear the Tristars are off to the States

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Worked with Tristars with RB211 524 in Saudi then with 22B - Every pilot that flew them loved them. To maintain them was a different story - required much more attention than a 747,accessibility was poor,hydraulic fittings a nightmare. The APU was an abortion and did not like high ambient temperatures. Pneumatic ducting was fragile and they required a large spares holding. Did more gear swings (retraction tests) than with any other aircraft - usually after a phase control valve change. A very comfortable aircraft to fly in but why anybody would want to operate them now I do not know. If they do get into service it will not be for long.
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yes Nuts, you started a thread on the subject in May:
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Yes but they have now been marked up with US N Numbers and the RAF stuff painted over, you wouldn't do that unless they were moving.
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A shame 411A is no longer with us as he would be in his element over this.
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Yes but they have now been marked up with US N Numbers and the RAF stuff painted over, you wouldn't do that unless they were moving.
or you wanted to sell the parts from an aircraft off the civil register?

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To who? who operates them?
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This is who have registered them... :::: CSDS Aircraft Sales and Leasing. ::::

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Every pilot who flew them loved them

Not only the pilots loved them , most FE's thought they were pretty good as well. Going into the B747 was like getting back into a dog kennel after being in the L1011.
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Yep, must admit the Tristar was the best 'office' for me (FE), by a country mile.

Enjoyed AAR too, with the highly modified fuel panel.
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Well ballacher, you must be talking about a different aircraft? The TriStar APU in RAF service was a fantastic bit of kit.
Good luck to these jets if they get to fly again. Pity they are gone. But hey! Whats a few £Bn wasted on a new fleet that should not have been needed yet...not that we could do with VFM or anything!

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Gotta agree best flight deck for FE's by far
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Best 500,000lb class aircraft ever!

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Probably a stupid question but where do they find civilian Tri* rated pilots for the ferry flights?
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Onceapilot - you must have been involved with some really bad APUs if you consider the Tristar unit to be a good one - it's one good point was that it was easy to change. The GTCP 660 in the 747 was far better. All the components could be replaced without dropping the unit and were easily accessible. It also has 2 generators - (most operators.) The Tristar speed and pneumatic control systems were unreliable I could go on and on!
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Why ballacher, do you belong to the ranks of the "slag the TriStar gang"? What was your military type background if you don't mind saying?

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"Best 500,000lb class aircraft ever..??" Really OAP? That's a big claim. I'm emphatically NOT in the slag the Tristar gang but it had become economically unviable for the job it was designed for even when the RAF bought them. That's the reason it was so cheap.
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Of course it is a big claim. It is my opinion, based on two decades of experience with it and, its superb safety record.
Thankyou, Mr Lockheed !

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Probably a stupid question but where do they find civilian Tri* rated pilots for the ferry flights?
Wondered the same. The Sands Hotel corporation in Las Vegas operated two -1011's up until recently (now in storage) so perhaps they might have had the personnel required.
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When they were flown into Abingdon 30+ years ago, I seem to remember someone telling me that a few French pilots ferried them in gear down all the way, without proper comms etc - they were cleared for the one flight only due to their slightly precarious condition, having been laid up for so long. Any truth in that?
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