Eurofighter, deburred holes (insufficiently)
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Eurofighter, deburred holes (insufficiently)
From Germany:
bundeswehr.de: Eurofighter: Flugbetrieb der Luftwaffe aktuell nicht von industrieller Flugstundenreduzierung betroffen
Faults on Eurofighter rear fuselage. Insufficently deburred holes. and BAE seems to own the problem. Can this be true?
bundeswehr.de: Eurofighter: Flugbetrieb der Luftwaffe aktuell nicht von industrieller Flugstundenreduzierung betroffen
The industry has established a manufacturing defect in a large number of holes on the rear fuselage of the aircraft Euro Fighter in the context of quality control. The reasons for this are inadequate deburring by the manufacturer BAE Systems.
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in English.
I'm amazed that this golden product has a workmanship deficiency. Outsource it to China perhaps for quality..!
I'm amazed that this golden product has a workmanship deficiency. Outsource it to China perhaps for quality..!
German media is running a story where only 42 aircraft are fit for flight (with limitations) due to the fuselage issue with a further 67 grounded.
No apparent reaction from the other nations, so one wonders what the formal position is from the design organisation.
No apparent reaction from the other nations, so one wonders what the formal position is from the design organisation.
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"De Buring",amazing! This is about the second thing one learns on a "Structures Course" to obtain a "Structures" ticket on a maint licence, how can this posibly slip by inspection/quality controll? Unbelivable, time to hire some ex- Halton Brats as inspectors!
Are these deficiencies peacetime-unserviceable or wartime-unserviceable?
One of the problems, I suspect, is the politicians (in which you can include Very Senior Officers) mixing-and-matching what counts as war for different parts of the system.
One of the problems, I suspect, is the politicians (in which you can include Very Senior Officers) mixing-and-matching what counts as war for different parts of the system.
Or it could be nothing at all. We have heard nothing from the manufacturer involved, no apparent reaction from all the other operators and the article it comes from appears to blame the wrong company.
It all seems a bit odd.
It all seems a bit odd.
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Never mind ex Halton brats, this basic mechanic knows that the second thing to do after squarely drilling a hole is to de-bur. Not read the story but at what point has this fault been found, must be more to it surely.
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What sort of de burd holes are dees? Are dey pidjun holes?
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We have heard nothing from the manufacturer involved, no apparent reaction from all the other operators and the article it comes from appears to blame the wrong company.
Mechanics of the British forces was first noticed the error. Therefore, no longer to let the machine so long fly the Royal Air Force decided. The Air Force will now join the British and the manufacturer's instructions and limit the life tim
No reaction? Fair's fair. It'll take a while to put a spin on this one.
Planned Obsolescence anyone?
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Never mind ex Halton brats, this basic mechanic knows that the second thing to do after squarely drilling a hole is to de-bur. Not read the story but at what point has this fault been found, must be more to it surely.
I'm an ex rigger after I left I worked for a civvie company doing major upgrades on the Tucano at Scampton.
Never mind "de burred" holes, on these things we found holes 6 inches wide that had been chain drilled out but that was it all the drilled edges were left "Ragged", Glad I did not fly in them
I'm an ex rigger after I left I worked for a civvie company doing major upgrades on the Tucano at Scampton.
Never mind "de burred" holes, on these things we found holes 6 inches wide that had been chain drilled out but that was it all the drilled edges were left "Ragged", Glad I did not fly in them
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What was the story behind F3s being butchered by carpenters, holes drilled all over then having to be cut and shut to get them flying again. I remember one of them crashing off Blackpool after Warton had to fix the issue.
Was it an MoD lowest bid refurb job???
Was it an MoD lowest bid refurb job???
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Airwork did the butchers job on the F.3 centre fuselages, they used incorrect tools to remove jo-bolts, which resulted in structural damage. Good job plenty of F.2's were in store or else entire new centre fuselage sections would've needed to be manufactured! 
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Yep, Airwork won the bid, BAe too expensive. 16 frames with required center fuselages replacing nicked from the F2's that were in storage. from what one of my mates at Valley who was detached to help fix them in the mid 1990s told me (he also told me that it was damage to the wing boxes that meant the replacement of the center section, which given their method of construction would have been mega expensive to remake from scratch had the F2's not been available). Airwork blamed the MoD and BAe for issuing incorrect documentation. The links at the bottom of the Wiki entry about Airworks have all the details.
Airwork Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It looks like they won a contract for work on the RAF Hercs as well and made a mess of that.
Airwork Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It looks like they won a contract for work on the RAF Hercs as well and made a mess of that.
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Airwork blamed the MoD and BAe for issuing incorrect documentation.
However, the terms "good engineering practice" and "tools of the trade" come to mind.
However, the terms "good engineering practice" and "tools of the trade" come to mind.