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Old 25th Sep 2014, 23:40
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The Omani's have finished..
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Fire3, nice renovation! Looks very nice.

Please keep this Jag well away from the Burning Area!

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In surprised no one has knocked up a pair of jet pipe moulds for the cones in fibreglass. Bearing in mind the amount at museums minus the leaf blowers they might be a nice little earner for the respective museum.
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We are after a set of jet pipes if anyone knows of a pair that are available.
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Another thing that is like rocking horse poo unless you have a wad of cash. There was a damaged Aduor on E-bay going for £5000. Nutloose's idea has a lot of merit.
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Everret seems to have them

EVERETT AERO - Aircraft/ROLLS ROYCE ADOUR SPARES FOR SALE

The reheat and jet pipe assembly is module 12.

But as I said if you can take a moulding off one, then make some up and sell them for the museum.
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Alternatively try

Adour Mk104 engines for sale - Aviation Trading
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I didn't say they were not around, I said they would not be cheap.
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Yeah I realised that,

Damaged one is still on ebay

Rolls Royce Adour 102 Gas Turbine Jet Engine | eBay

Early 102.

I would also try hanngingfield metals as they did have some in the scrap yard from Halton?
Though I do not know if they still have them.
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The Corestore - Turbines!!

Hanningfield Metals, West Hanningfield, Templewood Estate Stock Road
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Nut Loose, Aviation trading stripped down all their 104s into modular sections because no one would buy the engines at the price they were asking. They do have a load of 104 modules as well (no cans mind), but will only sell at market value. Everett Aero will tell you what they have if you ask for a quote, but I am aware of what they have. Why anyone would want to buy flyable 104 modules when the last operator is binning the Adour from their fleet and I'm sure most of the modules are not Hawk compatible (correct me if wrong). I happen to be involved with a Jaguar restoration project to a frame that is electrically live in most respects (bar armament wiring), Hydraulically and flying control live when we finish fitting the missing parts we have mostly got and have an airfield to taxi it on.. Missing two Adour 104s to do that..
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Hanningfield Metals don't exist anymore. The place is a Skip Hire yard now. There are some odds and sods at the back of the yard including 4 Bloodhound Mk 2 missiles in various states of decay, Nothing that looks like an Adour though.
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Two years ago but seems to indicate they may not be totally gone

What happened to Hanningfield Metals/HM Sales
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Is it true that with AIM-9Ls in situ the Jaguar's aerodynamics were marginally improved courtesy of the lift generated by the missile's fins ?

I swear I recall that comment from a pilot in one of those "Combat Aircraft" type articles.
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I was in the yard in late Oct 13, the guys were running the place said that the company had gone.
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Fonsini.
I assume that's a wind up but just in case you are serious I will humour you. The simple answer is no. The amount of wing surface taken up by the pylon easily outweighs the lift surfaces of the AIM9L. That's quite aside from the additional weight as well of course. There was no benefit to be had.
Although standby for some bright spark to bring up the old rocket assisted take off gag.
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Thanks Bob - maybe the pilot was having a little joke at the reader's expense, self included
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Although standby for some bright spark to bring up the old rocket assisted take off gag.
What's wrong with the "curvature of the earth" take off method?
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At least the Jag could get to the start of the runway, couldn't it BV.. Unlike half a Tonka Sqn when trying to launch a wave..
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At least the Jag could get to the start of the runway, couldn't it BV.. Unlike half a Tonka Sqn when trying to launch a wave..
Yes but half a Tonka Sqn could still carry twice the bomb load of a full Jag Sqn

Actually, I was on Jags from 76-84 and they were nice to work on but they didn't have a lot of oomph, even with the E rating switch on the 102's that gave an extra 6 degrees of EGT.

I always remember having to change an engine following a wire strike at Baden-Soellingen which was a Canadian Starfighter base. I was arranging to do the post installation EGR and the Canadians wanted to know if I needed to use the chains, after all I was going to be using reheat. They looked puzzled when I told them that a set of chocks would do. I moved from Jags to Harriers..... quite a difference in the oomph department
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Never flew with 102s. Only 104 and 106s. The 106 was quite a step up from the 104 which was itself quite an improvement on its predecessor from what I understand.
You can say what you like about the old girl but when it came to cheap bang for your buck it had few equals.
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