UK Armed Forces Pay Review Body 2015
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A year and a bit ago, IPSA announced that the MP salary was going to be 74k. It announced that its figure was not based on anything other than a finger in the wind, and was on the low side. It later published thst if the economy had picked up by the time we had had the election this year, it would 'review' it. 
Perhaps the decode of that brief is, "we know another real-terms pay cut will piss off a lot of people, but we reckon we'll just about get away with it again."
And, sadly, I suspect they're right. They haven't mentioned what the next round of cuts will do, sorry, what the SDSR will conclude is right to match the UK's defence requirements. One might be tempted to think that losing a few more might save some redundancy payments, reduce the pay bill and by keeping pay down, help to control the future pensions bill.
But that's all just supposition, of course. May I just take this opportunity to congratulate the MPs on their excellent, evidence based, inflation related, affordable, reasonable and necessary (on the grounds of recruitment and retention) pay rise.
And, sadly, I suspect they're right. They haven't mentioned what the next round of cuts will do, sorry, what the SDSR will conclude is right to match the UK's defence requirements. One might be tempted to think that losing a few more might save some redundancy payments, reduce the pay bill and by keeping pay down, help to control the future pensions bill.
But that's all just supposition, of course. May I just take this opportunity to congratulate the MPs on their excellent, evidence based, inflation related, affordable, reasonable and necessary (on the grounds of recruitment and retention) pay rise.
May I just take this opportunity to congratulate the MPs on their excellent, evidence based, inflation related, affordable, reasonable and necessary (on the grounds of recruitment and retention) pay rise.
^^^The lowest form of wit!
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Blimey, Flt Lts on £64K?
Still, my house was worth about twice my salary then,...
Flt Lt on max inc. + enhanced (pilot) FP: £62863. Aged late 30s
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Still, if the green party get in then 500,000 'social rent' homes will be built for £2.7Bn, according to (Ms, in all probability) Natalie Bennett. Works out at £5400 per house. What isn't specified is whether they'll be made of ethically sourced gingerbread.
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If MPs are not happy with £67k per year, I'm sure it would be easy enough to find other people that are capable of getting the country in to £1.6 trillion (& rising) of debt.
They need a 10% paycut, not rise.
They need a 10% paycut, not rise.
30 years ago, the house I bought cost about 2.4x the salary I was receiving as a Flt Lt pilot with 10 years in the rank on max flying pay.
Looking at today's figures, it would seem that the same rank is now paid about 4.1 x the 1984 level, whereas the value of the same house has increased by a factor of 7.2.....
Looking at today's figures, it would seem that the same rank is now paid about 4.1 x the 1984 level, whereas the value of the same house has increased by a factor of 7.2.....
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First of all I underwent some of the years of an annual 1% pay increase, so I do appreciate what it meant. Secondly, I fully anticipate being flamed/attacked/criticised for what I'm about to say....
However, in the interests of accuracy, while a 1% pay rise is measly, and doesn't compensate for previous years low awards, it does currently represent an "above inflation" (albeit CPI) pay increase.
CPI is currently at 0.3%, and the Bank of England is anticipating that inflation may actually go negative for a while:
BBC News - Economy tracker: Inflation
However, in the interests of accuracy, while a 1% pay rise is measly, and doesn't compensate for previous years low awards, it does currently represent an "above inflation" (albeit CPI) pay increase.
CPI is currently at 0.3%, and the Bank of England is anticipating that inflation may actually go negative for a while:
BBC News - Economy tracker: Inflation
Just to put it into context, an Italian MP is on something like 16,000 euros a month!(includes 4,000 euros a month "overnight" expenses).
Those bunga bunga parties have to be paid for somehow!
Those bunga bunga parties have to be paid for somehow!
Biggus,
Technically correct, and it is on the basis of that technicality that they will argue they can morally get away with it. However, one might suggest RPI is a more accurate representation of many households spending habits, in which case that was still over 1%.
But once again, it's fairly straightforward to see through the smoke and mirrors in their argument. Previous VAT and fuel rises have dropped out of the calculations - bit like a bad report on the promotions boards dropping out of consideration. It doesn't change the fact that VAT hasn't come back down again. As for oil prices, well, they are all over the place at the moment and whilst low prices are a brief welcome respite, how long will they stay low?
And will they use the low oil prices to justify a cut in allowances such as HTD and GYH? Wouldn't put it past them if I'm honest. And we all know that charges will go up by more than 1%.
The AFPRB reports are, I'm afraid, now only worth reading just to see how paper thin their excuses and reasoning are. Next time they are in town I would be inclined to ask them if on a personal level they actually believe what they are writing.
Technically correct, and it is on the basis of that technicality that they will argue they can morally get away with it. However, one might suggest RPI is a more accurate representation of many households spending habits, in which case that was still over 1%.
But once again, it's fairly straightforward to see through the smoke and mirrors in their argument. Previous VAT and fuel rises have dropped out of the calculations - bit like a bad report on the promotions boards dropping out of consideration. It doesn't change the fact that VAT hasn't come back down again. As for oil prices, well, they are all over the place at the moment and whilst low prices are a brief welcome respite, how long will they stay low?
And will they use the low oil prices to justify a cut in allowances such as HTD and GYH? Wouldn't put it past them if I'm honest. And we all know that charges will go up by more than 1%.
The AFPRB reports are, I'm afraid, now only worth reading just to see how paper thin their excuses and reasoning are. Next time they are in town I would be inclined to ask them if on a personal level they actually believe what they are writing.
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However, in the interests of accuracy, while a 1% pay rise is measly, and doesn't compensate for previous years low awards, it does currently represent an "above inflation" (albeit CPI) pay increase.
But that's my choice.
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TBH I've never really much understood the mentality of anybody that stays in a job that makes them feel undervalued.
Life's not a rehearsal...if you ain't getting enough wonga for your needs then foxtrot oscar. If you are currently in some sort of lock in, for service or personal reasons, then start gaming the system...make it work for you. Put your time to good use, building up your "value".
Life's too short to sit around whinging....onwards and upwards, always.
Life's not a rehearsal...if you ain't getting enough wonga for your needs then foxtrot oscar. If you are currently in some sort of lock in, for service or personal reasons, then start gaming the system...make it work for you. Put your time to good use, building up your "value".
Life's too short to sit around whinging....onwards and upwards, always.
Looks like Clegg is trying to force through a 2% rise for teachers.
Apparently it's affordable and justified after years of austerity. "'It's important that where we can be as generous as we can be… for people who are working in the public sector, we should do so.'"
Apparently it's affordable and justified after years of austerity. "'It's important that where we can be as generous as we can be… for people who are working in the public sector, we should do so.'"
Nobody will be surprised that the headline is 1%; it's the usual tactics of subtract money at a higher rate in charges or unique measures against individual cadres that hurts.
I've not read the report or IBN yet but I understand that aeromedical pay is going to be stopped. If true, those escorting the latest Ebola case back to the UK will have a disappointment inbound when they land.
I've not read the report or IBN yet but I understand that aeromedical pay is going to be stopped. If true, those escorting the latest Ebola case back to the UK will have a disappointment inbound when they land.
Yup, 1% bad news as expected to be burried before Purdah kicks in at the end of the month...
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...th-report-2015
Enjoy your pay rise MPs...
Also, not impressed by the way they keep 'sexing up' the yearly pay level increments. There are many that have come to the end of their pay level increments, and, seeing as you want to retain more people past option points then that is likely to increase. So in reality, with RPI/CPI this is another pay cut. All in it together? Yeah, right...
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...th-report-2015
Enjoy your pay rise MPs...
Also, not impressed by the way they keep 'sexing up' the yearly pay level increments. There are many that have come to the end of their pay level increments, and, seeing as you want to retain more people past option points then that is likely to increase. So in reality, with RPI/CPI this is another pay cut. All in it together? Yeah, right...
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Accommodation charges up 2.8%, food charges up 1.5%, pay up 1%. I presume any other elements will be frozen. Not sure why any of us bother, tbh... when was the last above-inflation pay rise? 2010?
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CPI/RPI and the increase in PAYD etc are not the only things to worry about.
Al Rush | When is a military pay rise not a military pay rise?
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