Veterans planning to leave Scotland in the event of a yes vote?
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How can you state in one sentence that pensions 'will' be paid, and in the next sentence acknowledge that there will have to be discussions between the two governments. You dont know how pensions will be paid. Like so many statements made by the Yes camp - your post is based on supposition and wishful thinking.
How can you state in one sentence that pensions 'will' be paid, and in the next sentence acknowledge that there will have to be discussions between the two governments. You dont know how pensions will be paid. Like so many statements made by the Yes camp - your post is based on supposition and wishful thinking.
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perthsaint,
I would have to say, respectfully, that your "answer" is in fact merely an intention, proposal, plan, etc, and not a certainty or fact or the only option.
As for the comment by nimbev, he didn't say that pensions wouldn't be paid, just queried how they would be. Perhaps he was implying that veterans pensions would continue to be paid by MOD, as they are for veterans living in say France, as opposed to by a Scottish government?
I would have to say, respectfully, that your "answer" is in fact merely an intention, proposal, plan, etc, and not a certainty or fact or the only option.
As for the comment by nimbev, he didn't say that pensions wouldn't be paid, just queried how they would be. Perhaps he was implying that veterans pensions would continue to be paid by MOD, as they are for veterans living in say France, as opposed to by a Scottish government?
No I can't, Perthsaint. We're small fry and, unless you personally are willing to front-up my pension, I can see no option other than transferring everything back into the UK.
Here's another thought for you. My second pension, as things stand, would be paid from the UK in sterling, to a Scottish bank using an, as yet, unknown currency, and then transferred to a bank in France in Euros. Three different currencies, one that has possibly defaulted right from the start, with unknown exchange rates. Would you take that risk?
"Say living in France?" Biggus. What are you saying? ;-)
Here's another thought for you. My second pension, as things stand, would be paid from the UK in sterling, to a Scottish bank using an, as yet, unknown currency, and then transferred to a bank in France in Euros. Three different currencies, one that has possibly defaulted right from the start, with unknown exchange rates. Would you take that risk?
"Say living in France?" Biggus. What are you saying? ;-)
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Biggus,
I've posted the Scottish Government's policy. I don't know what the UK Government's intentions are but I don't think deciding how pensioners residing in Scotland are paid would be within their remit.
I've posted the Scottish Government's policy. I don't know what the UK Government's intentions are but I don't think deciding how pensioners residing in Scotland are paid would be within their remit.
Perthsaint, no advantage at all under the Anglo-French Double Tax Agreement, as I'm sure you and the Scottish "Government" know. Right? Transfers through three currencies can only lose in exchange rates and fees.
And your answers to all the other honest questions? And if you have any further doubts about how people feel, this may help...
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And your answers to all the other honest questions? And if you have any further doubts about how people feel, this may help...
Savage racism turning Scotland into a no-go zone for the English* | Mail Online
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Exactly. It's all a right load of hot air, peoples livelihoods are a politicians [and a not very good one at that being an ex rbs employee] pawn to be used as they see fit.
Due to the nationalists "ex imperialists" rhetoric, I have no doubt that pensions are just one of the many taxable assets that will be used to fettle those deemed as requiring additional social assistance in the "Fair and Equal" pipe-dream they have sold to those whose thoughts only reach as far as the front of their flatscreens.
Due to the nationalists "ex imperialists" rhetoric, I have no doubt that pensions are just one of the many taxable assets that will be used to fettle those deemed as requiring additional social assistance in the "Fair and Equal" pipe-dream they have sold to those whose thoughts only reach as far as the front of their flatscreens.
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Well, I'm pleased for you that you can make light of it, Perthsaint. For us it's a matter of our livelihood, for you it's clearly a matter of something where uncertainties don't matter. Good luck to you.
As you have waded in here with your opening shot, any chance you might offer some reasoned answers to the points that folk here are raising... ...not rhetoric, answers. Give it a go.
As you have waded in here with your opening shot, any chance you might offer some reasoned answers to the points that folk here are raising... ...not rhetoric, answers. Give it a go.
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This is quite an astute observation. Contractually speaking, veterans' pensions were accrued through their service to the UK Armed Forces, so so liability to pay that pension would remain with the UK Armed Forces - which, of course, an Independent Scotland would not be part of.
Why would they voluntarily undertake a finical obligation that wasn't theirs?
The questions remain: What would be the tax treatment by an Independent Scotland Government for Forces pensions paid to Scotland residents from a foreign country ? and would you be better off with a Sterling payment - given that no-one knows what the Scottish legal tender will be?
n the SNPs 600 odd page document on their vision for a future independent Scotland, it states their intention to take over responsibility for paying service pensions for veterans who remain living in Scotland. Now, this is only an intention, and presumably would be one of the many subjects that would have to be negotiated if the result is yes, it may not actually come to pass, however.....
Why would they voluntarily undertake a finical obligation that wasn't theirs?
The questions remain: What would be the tax treatment by an Independent Scotland Government for Forces pensions paid to Scotland residents from a foreign country ? and would you be better off with a Sterling payment - given that no-one knows what the Scottish legal tender will be?
Perthsaint, the subject is vets bailing out out of Scotland because of fears that their livelihoods may be at risk. I and others have offered our concerns. Apart from a link to a website, you have not been able to offer anything other than one-liners and a smiley face. Not a great argument.
I only told you of my circumstances as an example. You want to make it into a political issue. But with no weight of argument. To lots of people it's more a matter of real concern. As they say on that TV programme, "I'm out." Assets moving south. And you would do well to note how many businesses will do the same. For the same reasons.
I only told you of my circumstances as an example. You want to make it into a political issue. But with no weight of argument. To lots of people it's more a matter of real concern. As they say on that TV programme, "I'm out." Assets moving south. And you would do well to note how many businesses will do the same. For the same reasons.
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As inflammatory statements go that one's a 9/10.
Your conviction and unthinking belief is almost religious.....
...and we all know where that leads, don't we......
Your conviction and unthinking belief is almost religious.....
...and we all know where that leads, don't we......
Nothing to do with "fear". Would you risk your livelihood in the face of so much uncertainty? Rhetorical question.
Now, if you'd like to offer some reassurance to us all, please go ahead. Otherwise understand that businesses and people will move south for the same reasons that have already been stated here.
It's late in France, so, goodnight.
Now, if you'd like to offer some reassurance to us all, please go ahead. Otherwise understand that businesses and people will move south for the same reasons that have already been stated here.
It's late in France, so, goodnight.