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This Ebola outbreak will almost certainly be controlled with few cases escaping Africa, and the developed world now it has mobilised well able to isolate and contain any cases on their soil.
The more important message is the relentless march of severe infectious threats to threaten and possibly eventually almost overwhelm the human global population.
The lethal world pandemic is coming almost inevitably, just not yet.
The more important message is the relentless march of severe infectious threats to threaten and possibly eventually almost overwhelm the human global population.
The lethal world pandemic is coming almost inevitably, just not yet.
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Chopper 2004,
This outbreak was the basis of the book 'The Hot Zone' by Robert Preston. The disease was in an animal house full of primates in Reston Virginia and was Simeon Haemorrhagic Fever, very similar to Ebola but cannot yet jump the species barrier. The team was indeed from USAMRID at Fort Detrick.
I watched a documentary on ITV around 10 years back relating to the incident in Virginia and the unseen footage of USAMRIID personnel suiting up in biohazard BL4 suits. Initially not to create a panic, the officers and enlisted personnel were instructed to wear civvy clothes / PT gear (depicted in reconstruction) walk calmly to their own vehicles at Ft Detrick (?) and drive to the lab. IIRC, the primates were killed, blood drained and bodies incinerated.
That's "Simian" as in higher primates. Simians are not a single species, so it does cross the species barrier. I believe it as never been recorded in humans, so if that was what you meant, your most important point there is sound.
CM, my spelling error, Simian DNA is 98% the same as human so therefore unless you undertake some bio-engeering, you may find the species jump impossible, where as simians have I think the same DNA so therefore cross infection is possible, look at cats all very different breeds and species but may all develop FIV.
That 2% maybe very important.
That 2% maybe very important.
Ref medical reliability and professionalism, over past years I've seen:
1. A blast injury mistreated by a hospital doctor to the point where a sinus formed.
2. An audiogram performed incorrectly by a nurse. I intervened and the test then progressed satisfactorily.
3. A loud altercation with a paramedic because I had the temerity to drive a patient who could barely walk right up to the A&E entrance. Same case; hospital gown thrown at patient who was told to undress and wear it and was then mocked for donning it the wrong way round.
A bit of airline style training, checking and CRM would not go amiss.
1. A blast injury mistreated by a hospital doctor to the point where a sinus formed.
2. An audiogram performed incorrectly by a nurse. I intervened and the test then progressed satisfactorily.
3. A loud altercation with a paramedic because I had the temerity to drive a patient who could barely walk right up to the A&E entrance. Same case; hospital gown thrown at patient who was told to undress and wear it and was then mocked for donning it the wrong way round.
A bit of airline style training, checking and CRM would not go amiss.
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Air Pig-The outbreak in the primate facility in Reston acutally WASA Ebola, not SHF. It was a new strain which is now known as Ebola Reston (guess why). It did infect several workers at the facility but in humans is presents mild symptoms similar to a case of the flu. The same disease appeared in a primate facility in Texas a few years later and was traced to the Phillipines IIRC.
It was a massive stroke of luck that this strain is very mild in humans, though obviously nothing to guarantee it couldn't mutate into something more dangerous. There was also evidence in that outbreak of limited airborne transmission, which caused some great concern for obvious reasons.
It was a massive stroke of luck that this strain is very mild in humans, though obviously nothing to guarantee it couldn't mutate into something more dangerous. There was also evidence in that outbreak of limited airborne transmission, which caused some great concern for obvious reasons.
NP, have not read the book,for many year but I do now remember the airborne transmission and human infection. The original index case was in '75 as Enola Myinga (sp) which has mutated slightly, indeed we are fortunate at the moment but things could change.
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"And that's why very few people worry about catching HIV".
I even heard the story of a WRAF who had sex in the back of a 3 tonner and was diagnosed HGV positive.
I even heard the story of a WRAF who had sex in the back of a 3 tonner and was diagnosed HGV positive.
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I would have thought that the doctor who tragically died and the American doctor and nurse currently on their way back to the States after contracting the disease, were expert virologists. Tragically, it didn't help them.
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Are we all mad? As with the fearsome Bird flu epidemic which razed the UK in the mid-2000's, instead of talking, we should be stocking up on Tamifluette - or something...
SARS, H5N1, H3N8, H2N2, H2O2 and all the other killer H-thing virus bugs, they're all out there you know, ready to leap up our noses and turn us to mush-like jelly beings.
For the love of God, do something now..inject and protect - wear a face mask, shop 'till you drop, lock your doors, sit in a chair with a shotgun.
I blame the government..and religious people for not praying hard enough.
SARS, H5N1, H3N8, H2N2, H2O2 and all the other killer H-thing virus bugs, they're all out there you know, ready to leap up our noses and turn us to mush-like jelly beings.
For the love of God, do something now..inject and protect - wear a face mask, shop 'till you drop, lock your doors, sit in a chair with a shotgun.
I blame the government..and religious people for not praying hard enough.
Hey, I love the fact that we've all turned into expert virologists. We are so smart.
I guess saying "I don't know" is sooo 1970s.
Spanish Air Force brings back Ebola victim
Priest Miguel Parajes becomes first Ebola victim brought to Europe for treatment | Mail Online
(images courtesy of DM)
Think in the vid, the aircrew were putting large plastic bags of stuff under escort from the men in white, into bins (prob for incineration)
Cheers
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Think in the vid, the aircrew were putting large plastic bags of stuff under escort from the men in white, into bins (prob for incineration)
Cheers
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Repatriation
I don't think that repatriation of a known victim is the main worry here.
We should be concerned that some mate with dual US citizenship got as far as Lagos Airport before dying. There will be others who when they realise they are ill may try and seek better treatment in Europe, the US or Asia.
Health tourism might take on a whole new slant in the uk if someone slips through the net and turns up at a busy A and E department and sits waiting for a few hours.
We should be concerned that some mate with dual US citizenship got as far as Lagos Airport before dying. There will be others who when they realise they are ill may try and seek better treatment in Europe, the US or Asia.
Health tourism might take on a whole new slant in the uk if someone slips through the net and turns up at a busy A and E department and sits waiting for a few hours.
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Hey, I love the fact that we've all turned into expert virologists. We are so smart.
Obviously virologists aren't as smart as pilots...