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Old 10th Jul 2012, 18:58
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CAA Military Accreditation

Don't suppose if anyone knows when Part O (Credits for Military Pilots) of CAP 804 is due to be released? It seems to have gone all deep and silent.

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7 Sep wasn't it?
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Have just had the joy of having to delve into it - the date has been put back to 17 Sep 12 from 1 Jul 12. Here is a link:

CAP 804: Flight Crew Licensing: Mandatory Requirements, Policy and Guidance | Publications | About the CAA
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Chaps,

The date of 17 Sept is when EASA licenses will be published under Part-FCL. It's my understanding that until then the old license type will be published but these will need to be renewed in 2014 (at a cost) off the top of my head.

Annex O to CAP 804, once published, will go straight into effect apparently and as such, people will be able to apply the credits found within. So, as soon as its out, you'll be able to open your CPL/ATPL and get cracking with you IR. Until then, the clock just keeps ticking and you can't do anything.

If I've got it wrong, please correct me as this is dear to my heart at the moment too.

SM.

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Old 11th Jul 2012, 09:17
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CAP 804 Section 4 Part O

I am informed by those responsible, that CAP 804 will include Section 4 Part O 'Credits for Military Pilots' in the forthcoming amendment, which is due 'soon'.

But then again, so is the UK's summer......

As soon as I hear anything more definite, I will let people know.
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How long does it take to "cut and paste" from LASORS
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Hoping its a bit better than LASORS. RAF rotary guys got a bit of a **** deal... 2000 hours flying multi-crew, multi-engine, VFR & IFR, full Procedural IR, operating in and out of civvy and military airfields anywhere from the UK to the Middle East might just get you a CPL if you ask nicely
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The new scheme will be published very shortly as amendment 1 to CAP 804. Do not expect a cut and paste from LASORS - the old QSP scheme is well and truly dead.
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Cheers for the info. Hopefully see something soon.
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starbright, no problem. My contacts tell me that the amendment should go live on the CAA website within the next 10 working days. Keep an eye out! Some last minute glitches occurred (something to do with the AAC) but these have apparently been resolved.
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It would be nice if the RAF rotary fleet got some recognition for having full procedural IRs unlike the RN and AAC.
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Since the fixed wing guys never got any credit for IRs , why should the rotary?
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The IR is Cash And Agros"s crown jewels. Nobody has ever been given any credit for it.

Go fly with exam xx, they are all ex mob anyway!
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 14:33
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You can fly the IRE in the Service aircraft though to get an IR tick.
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And you'll be able to under the new scheme.
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Any chance they will take a mil green rating and grant equivalence without having to fly with the caa? But of a pipe dream I know....
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Sadly, no chance. It's std stuff as it was before, ie CAA examiner flies in mil type on an IRT and awards civvy IR. It's a way of charging more for it, some would say. Others would argue it keeps the standards high. Bit of both is probably the case...
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Where did you get that info from? I haven't seen any announcements yet. I'm hoping a CAA observed IR is the way forward. Strapping onto a Seneca would be expensive!
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