Chinook pilot v RAF Movers
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For the uninitiated, the DFC was for taking an RPG through the airframe, badly damaging the aircraft.
Sorry trying to lighten up the thread
For what it's worth I'm not sure either side comes out well in this particular pissing match, regardless of who wrote what through ghost authors, or who wrote on Amazon from the movements point of view.
I've had my run ins with MGD in the past but for me, he's spot on here. Let the whole ugly infighting business lie. The RAF is supposed to be one fight, it's really sad to see jockeys slagging off muppets or any other ground trade who are pivotal to keeping them airborne, no matter how minor the percieved role.
I've had my run ins with MGD in the past but for me, he's spot on here. Let the whole ugly infighting business lie. The RAF is supposed to be one fight, it's really sad to see jockeys slagging off muppets or any other ground trade who are pivotal to keeping them airborne, no matter how minor the percieved role.
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Meh, you get good and ****e in all trades - sadly the trades that NEED the best customer service attitude often get down by berks......
and to be fair - movements ain't exactly rocket science so you are far less likely to get a good intellect working there. Treat em like you would treat a rhino,
With care, a tranq gun and a big cage - you should be fine.
Fly safe, and don't have nightmares, I know I still do.
and to be fair - movements ain't exactly rocket science so you are far less likely to get a good intellect working there. Treat em like you would treat a rhino,
With care, a tranq gun and a big cage - you should be fine.
Fly safe, and don't have nightmares, I know I still do.
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I came back from AFG last week.. I was bused from the old PHF to the new CHF.. met by some army mover saying 'this is new, not open yet..' just went off for a sleep... I woke up and it was ok.. the movers in Minhad are ace by the way..
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'I am completely disappointed to think that this person has been award the DFC and then goes out of his way to belittle movers!'
Suggesting gallantry, a realist attitude and the failure to pander to the bruised egos of dribbling vegetables are a bad thing?
Suggesting gallantry, a realist attitude and the failure to pander to the bruised egos of dribbling vegetables are a bad thing?
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Well said MGD - completely agree.
To those who felt the need to post reviews of an 'personal grievance' nature on Amazon, my advice would be to pump the brakes and chill out. The majority of movers are helpful and do a good job, just like aircrew, so don't turn this into a massive Aircrew v Movers battle which will only alienate the majority of you who do us all proud.
That is all.
To those who felt the need to post reviews of an 'personal grievance' nature on Amazon, my advice would be to pump the brakes and chill out. The majority of movers are helpful and do a good job, just like aircrew, so don't turn this into a massive Aircrew v Movers battle which will only alienate the majority of you who do us all proud.
That is all.
Isn't this just the memoir version of, 'sexing-up the dossier'? It sells better. When the movers write one, will we be surprised to read that it was our heroes who really made it all possible?
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I've never seen so much interest in a book since Buster released 'itler, my parts in his downfall 
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Right, listen up movers. We direct these comments at you after many, many years of extreme disappointment. We recognise that you had a difficult job and like us you are probably under resourced and undermanned. By all means feel free to have a pop at an author that was under guidance to make the story exciting and accessible all for all ages, so he wrote how he was told to write. The facts are all accurate, he is one of the most courageous men you can ever meet and in real life will always always play it all down. To have a go at him basing his stories on real experience is very disappointing. The calibre of the comments show the true level of intelligence which is smearing his hard work. Every time the fleet has tried to get to and from theatre it has been seriously undermined by fairly poor results by your department. He is simply telling the truth. Very, childish, unprofessional and nasty to go out of your way to shoot down the success and hard work of those at Odiham who have been out there fighting the war for years on your behalf. Classic case of charisma envy and you have really let the whole RAF down. Disgusted.
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I think MGD deserves credit here for making some very sensible comments. Oh, and a bigger well done for managing to count past ten (mover) without taking his shoes and socks off (loadie). Next step, front of house (firstly though you need the God complex)!
I am quite perplexed however, by some of the rather emotive rhetoric by some on this thread. We can all be let down at times by our colleagues. If I recall, there are a couple of our finest stick monkeys at EGVO who have their own chair in OC Police Flights office.
I also remember about 10 yrs ago seeing a young DAMO getting stick from a pissed albert mate in the Officers Mess bar at Akrotiri; he'd made the mistake of asking where the loadie was accommodated. Said pissed albert mate: "You're infringing on my rest period, I'm flying in 5 hours now f*ck off"... so it seems we can all let the side down.
Thing is I know from first hand experience that most albert mates are sound; as are most wokka wokka chaps; as are most movers; as are most admin...no, can't go that far...
I am quite perplexed however, by some of the rather emotive rhetoric by some on this thread. We can all be let down at times by our colleagues. If I recall, there are a couple of our finest stick monkeys at EGVO who have their own chair in OC Police Flights office.
I also remember about 10 yrs ago seeing a young DAMO getting stick from a pissed albert mate in the Officers Mess bar at Akrotiri; he'd made the mistake of asking where the loadie was accommodated. Said pissed albert mate: "You're infringing on my rest period, I'm flying in 5 hours now f*ck off"... so it seems we can all let the side down.
Thing is I know from first hand experience that most albert mates are sound; as are most wokka wokka chaps; as are most movers; as are most admin...no, can't go that far...
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Everyone has a tale of mover's ineptitude, it's part of life in the services. As MGD said earlier, only a few go out of their way to muck people about, some do it without knowing, and the rest just try and get the job done professionally.
If I was the erstwhile author's SRO, my only "disappointment" would be his seeming inability to keep his officer's leadership qualities as well-honed as his flying skills. As an officer, responsibility for engendering morale, motivation, and confidence in the command structure aren't a function of the Auth sheet, it's a full time role.
If I was the erstwhile author's SRO, my only "disappointment" would be his seeming inability to keep his officer's leadership qualities as well-honed as his flying skills. As an officer, responsibility for engendering morale, motivation, and confidence in the command structure aren't a function of the Auth sheet, it's a full time role.
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If I was the erstwhile author's SRO, my only "disappointment" would be his seeming inability to keep his officer's leadership qualities as well-honed as his flying skills. As an officer, responsibility for engendering morale, motivation, and confidence in the command structure aren't a function of the Auth sheet, it's a full time role.