Vulcan - bone domes
I had a plotter mate on Victor tankers with a Mk 2. Felt sorry for him wearing the damn thing for up to 6 or 7 hours when the only time I had to put my outer on was for take-off, landing and during AAR.
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Yeah, but, no, but, it was my recall - and I don't go south of the river after dark; apart from a stuttering part tour on 101, I spent the rest of my time at Scampton, so wouldn't have seen your shiney helmet...
I'll make it clear for the non-V readers that "R" stands for "Rhodesia", not "reserve". Different brand of elephant on the sqn badge, going the same way as 27, but with big ears.
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Yeah, but, no, but, it was my recall - and I don't go south of the river after dark; apart from a stuttering part tour on 101, I spent the rest of my time at Scampton, so wouldn't have seen your shiney helmet...
I'll make it clear for the non-V readers that "R" stands for "Rhodesia", not "reserve". Different brand of elephant on the sqn badge, going the same way as 27, but with big ears.
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Hi Tartare,
Sorry for the thread hijack, just one question leads to another!
To answer your very first original question, the cloth helmets were G-Types. In the below image of two of my G-Types, the earlier ones were Blue, then later they went to Green:
...And here is one of my Mk1A's with the G-Type propped up inside it. Ignore the mask, it is an R-Type (Like an H-Type, but no air inlet valve) used in the Dominie I believe with Gabb toggle harness for Headset fitting, so wrong for the Vulcan, but you get the idea, just imagine a P/Q or earlier A-13...
Cheers, Scott.
Sorry for the thread hijack, just one question leads to another!
To answer your very first original question, the cloth helmets were G-Types. In the below image of two of my G-Types, the earlier ones were Blue, then later they went to Green:
...And here is one of my Mk1A's with the G-Type propped up inside it. Ignore the mask, it is an R-Type (Like an H-Type, but no air inlet valve) used in the Dominie I believe with Gabb toggle harness for Headset fitting, so wrong for the Vulcan, but you get the idea, just imagine a P/Q or earlier A-13...
Cheers, Scott.
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'.....Vulcan system.....constant flow. Many crews flew with their masks dangling so there was a constant escape of oxygen. It was for that reason that smoking was forbidden'
It didn't stop some crews from smoking. I recall 'smoking crews' in which, by tacit agreement, one or more would light up during the trip.
PN - none at Coningsby? Perhaps they were all too well behaved on 9,12 and 35 squadrons - or had more sense.
It didn't stop some crews from smoking. I recall 'smoking crews' in which, by tacit agreement, one or more would light up during the trip.
PN - none at Coningsby? Perhaps they were all too well behaved on 9,12 and 35 squadrons - or had more sense.
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Ron, my post was obviously too cryptic for you. How else would I have seen how quickly the cigarette burnt 
I can name names now as it is the late Paddy Roache who was of course on that famous TV programme The Deliverers in 1963. On one occasion he sported a pipe and I am convinced that he had the chopped up contents of a product from the London Rubber Company. His smoking was curtailed when he joined our crew on 12 from IX as we were all non-smokers.
I can name names now as it is the late Paddy Roache who was of course on that famous TV programme The Deliverers in 1963. On one occasion he sported a pipe and I am convinced that he had the chopped up contents of a product from the London Rubber Company. His smoking was curtailed when he joined our crew on 12 from IX as we were all non-smokers.
t7a haha... true, but we all have an inner geek somewhere! 
I've not met many other flightgear collectors (others do exist!), but don't really understand the more common hobbies of stamp collecting, celebrity gossip, Saturday shopping, etc...
Unfortunately for me (or more unfortunately for my wife) it's a subject that really has captured my interest, as it's such a massive / broad topic, you'll never learn everything..
Cheers, Scott
I've not met many other flightgear collectors (others do exist!), but don't really understand the more common hobbies of stamp collecting, celebrity gossip, Saturday shopping, etc...
Unfortunately for me (or more unfortunately for my wife) it's a subject that really has captured my interest, as it's such a massive / broad topic, you'll never learn everything..
Cheers, Scott
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t7a, we wore the dark blue/grey fish-tail anorak with a brown serge type liner. they came with attached trousers and the fishtail was tack-stitched to the trousers. Most of us would remove the stitching and wear them as a two-piece.
The fish tail could be fastened in side or brought up under the crotch. The trousers were held up with detachable braces. The braces could be passed through loops on the rubber buttoned long johns and , IIRC, the aircrew box shorts. At the time we had the blue/grey cloth G-helmet.
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The fish tail could be fastened in side or brought up under the crotch. The trousers were held up with detachable braces. The braces could be passed through loops on the rubber buttoned long johns and , IIRC, the aircrew box shorts. At the time we had the blue/grey cloth G-helmet.
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You callin me a q***r or what? Wore mine to keep out the banter of the "White noise generator" commonly called Pe** L****n. (Best AEO in the fleet). Also very useful when getting a nav ruler on the bonce from Mau***e P*******n.
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We used to smoke on my crew on the Valiants without any problem. We had to; being on tankers we had to rid of our surplus duty free. Wheels up, fags out, was the call. especially after the hour it took from leaving ops to getting airborne. We would use one of the cups with a splash of coffee as an ash tray. At the end of the trip, to hide the evidence, we would depressurise during the approach and I would open my DV panel. Then I would hold up the cups in turn and the contents would be sucked out to be consumed by No 3 engine.
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The Hastings crews at Lindholme were cheesed off about smoking.
It was permitted on Transport Command aircraft and forbidden on Bomber Command aircraft.
Like FED, a coffee cup with a little water as an ash tray but no DV Panel evacuation. The Very pistol was unshipped and the cup offered up to the hole.
I think, in time, the nicotine stains down the fuselage gave the game away
PS, that also remins me of the document shredder on the Varsitys. Vast quantities of airways clearance chits and other miscellaneous bits we passed from the slaves in the back to the driver up front. Towards the end of the trip the Captain would crack the side window and feed each slip out in to the slip stream, obviously so names as the means of shredding the slips.
It was permitted on Transport Command aircraft and forbidden on Bomber Command aircraft.
Like FED, a coffee cup with a little water as an ash tray but no DV Panel evacuation. The Very pistol was unshipped and the cup offered up to the hole.
I think, in time, the nicotine stains down the fuselage gave the game away
PS, that also remins me of the document shredder on the Varsitys. Vast quantities of airways clearance chits and other miscellaneous bits we passed from the slaves in the back to the driver up front. Towards the end of the trip the Captain would crack the side window and feed each slip out in to the slip stream, obviously so names as the means of shredding the slips.
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The new ones were certainly a vastly better as a cold weather system although many preferred the longer length of the old jackets.
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Bonedomes and Chipmunks
I think the Mk 4 in the Chipmunk problem may have been missunderstood. As I recall if your Chippy harness was slack or you were a bit big during negative G your bonce protection rested on the canopy a bit. The Mk 4 had the same visor arrangement as the Mk 1. the plastic lump on a slidy thing. The plastic lump had a ridge at the top and in that state all the weight was resting a a small area of canopy making nice little slots in it. The Mk 1 was modded by filing bits off to make it a bit lower and wider so the weight was OK but then of course it was non standard and so could not be used elswehere.
It was a long time ago and my memory has been faulty elsewhere so humble sorrow if in error
It was a long time ago and my memory has been faulty elsewhere so humble sorrow if in error