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Harold's hat
Dim memory - was it a G/Mk 1 combo that Harold Wilson was fitted with on one occasion, with the shell on back to front?
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Good to hear from you again Wander00 ... Yes ... I should have paid closer attention ... T4 probably making this a Night Check Ride ?
Best regards ...
Coff.
Best regards ...
Coff.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
AMTC used to use Harold Wilson's photo as an object lesson in bone dome fitting
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I remember that 1/2 pudding basin or was it colander protective helmet being issued on trial to several nav/ bomb aimers at RAF Bruggen for use when flying with the Canberra B(I)6 Hornet Squadron.
I think the idea was to make it easier for the bomb aimer to gain access to tbe nose section of the aircraft when flying the LABS(bomb tossing/flinging) manoeuvre which I should imagine was quite violent with every chance of bashing his head/helmet in such a confined space.
Some of the guys kept their helmets after the trial for that purpose
Never ever saw one again after leaving Bruggen.
I remember that 1/2 pudding basin or was it colander protective helmet being issued on trial to several nav/ bomb aimers at RAF Bruggen for use when flying with the Canberra B(I)6 Hornet Squadron.
I think the idea was to make it easier for the bomb aimer to gain access to tbe nose section of the aircraft when flying the LABS(bomb tossing/flinging) manoeuvre which I should imagine was quite violent with every chance of bashing his head/helmet in such a confined space.
Some of the guys kept their helmets after the trial for that purpose
Never ever saw one again after leaving Bruggen.
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SARAH Search and Rescue and Homing Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) If I remember correctly, well it was nearly 50 years ago.
Chain lacing- mountains of discarded AEA (flying clothing) for after flight servicing everyone gone home but Squipper oh joy.
Just a memory now.
SARAH Search and Rescue and Homing Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) If I remember correctly, well it was nearly 50 years ago.
Chain lacing- mountains of discarded AEA (flying clothing) for after flight servicing everyone gone home but Squipper oh joy.
Just a memory now.
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CS - looks like the front of a Canberra T4 - 2 DV panels and a swing seat for the guy in the RHS
Mind you the view was nice. Not many FEs got the chance to pole the T4 in trail at FL450 en route AKT while the skipper and Nav were asleep, hors de combat after the night in Rome . . .
Nav brief 'Can you see the 3 in front' . . . 'follow them'.
Ancient...
Correct for SARAH. There were 3 separate frequencies and 5 crew members (sometimes 6 or 7 in the jump seats) - this posed an interesting challenge when trying to make 7 go into 3 to keep frequencies different.
I think it (SARAH) was replaced with the early SARBE - which, when you released the blade antenna, it usually took the top of a finger off as it uncoiled....
I think it (SARAH) was replaced with the early SARBE - which, when you released the blade antenna, it usually took the top of a finger off as it uncoiled....
contact Dr Graham Rood at F.A.S.T
One of those "civil serpents" who has done more for aviation safety than most others put together. And a gentleman to boot. Good call oldmansquipper.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Ah, the Godfrey cabinet.
On civil serpents, I think there are different types.
The majority that a Serviceman sees are low level E grade with a smattering of Ds. Low wages and limited working hours and more limited authority and flexibility and you get what you pay for.
Higher level CS that are at the Ministry or HQs, often in finance and seem forever to say no more often than they say yes.
And the doers. The ones that actually do things like the estimed doctor etc who are just as frustrated with other CS as are the Servicemen themselves.
On civil serpents, I think there are different types.
The majority that a Serviceman sees are low level E grade with a smattering of Ds. Low wages and limited working hours and more limited authority and flexibility and you get what you pay for.
Higher level CS that are at the Ministry or HQs, often in finance and seem forever to say no more often than they say yes.
And the doers. The ones that actually do things like the estimed doctor etc who are just as frustrated with other CS as are the Servicemen themselves.
AR5 for Vulcan crews
How would the Vulcan crews cope in a NBC environment with AR5 with/without AR5, out of interest?
AR5
Ahhhh! AR5 - or "how to practice bleeding" Wonderful piece of kit.........
However..As a shelter marshall during the cold war, I would have killed for one to replace my S6/10....
In the late 70s I came up with an idea for a `simple` method of getting uncontaminated food into the AR5 wearer. I demonstrated it to Bruggen crews at one point, and the idea went to RAFG for approval...Got as far as IAM, I believe, where it died a death....
About 10 years later the same (or a VERY similar) simple idea working on the same principles made it into baby food dispensers! Ho Hum.
However..As a shelter marshall during the cold war, I would have killed for one to replace my S6/10....
In the late 70s I came up with an idea for a `simple` method of getting uncontaminated food into the AR5 wearer. I demonstrated it to Bruggen crews at one point, and the idea went to RAFG for approval...Got as far as IAM, I believe, where it died a death....
About 10 years later the same (or a VERY similar) simple idea working on the same principles made it into baby food dispensers! Ho Hum.
Good old Godfrey...
Hmmm.. Pre flights for Vulcan crews involved toggling down the mask & inflating the PPJ as a test. Squippers (Called SEWs at the time) suitably qualified had to take the crews through the test. A lengthy business requiring full cooperation of the crew member. Only three test inflations were allowed before the crewman could not fly that day...I often wondered how many times crews who did not want to fly that day `milked` the situation? - The squippers usually got the blame though!
Hi, perhaps this is a question for Old Man Squipper..
This is my first post on this forum, I have a flying helmet collection (x 30ish), and various other AEA items.... You can see my writing on the subject at: flightgear's posterous - Home
I display my gear each year at Newark Air Museum's CockpitFest (although I missed this one as we'd just had a baby!)
Some photos of most of my collection: By Clicking Here
I got into aviation through volunteering for years on the Cranfield T5 Lightnings, XS452 and XS458.
I write, as I have a couple of questions regarding Vulcan kit:
1 - I have an AR-5 NBC hood, and a front crew Vulcan PEC that is a perfect fit the AR-5 NBC hood.
I wanted to know how many Vulcans were equipped for use of the AR-5? What era were they equipped? And did the Vulcan crews ever have to fly with them? (I recently looked round the Wellsbourne Vulcan, and the Seat portions of the PEC's were non-NBC.)
Typically would these have been worn wih a Mk3C or Mk4A helmet? Just thinking of what era's the AR-5 may have been used...
Do you have any photos of Vulcan Crews in NBC gear?
2 - I also recently bought a Vulcan rear crew PEC with Pressure Jerkin fitting. I have a Mk4 Pressure Jerkin - the Jerkin fitting seems to align quite well on Lightning, Bccaneer and Sea Vixen PEC's, but the Vulcan rear crew PEC seems a little long, as though the mask oxy hose would poke you in the chin! Was there a special Jerkin for the Vulcan rear crew?
3 - I understand the Taylor Woodhouse and Baxter Type E, and GQ parachute company Partial Pressure Helmets were used in the Vulcans in the early days, but these were replaced by pressure demand masks as it was deemed as only necessary as a "Get Me Down" precaution following a cabin de-pressurisation...
What masks were suitable for flying with the pressure jerkins? A-13, M-Type or P/Q-Type? Would the Vulcan's have been operated with all mask types over the years in conjunction with Pressure Jerkins?
Just trying to learn as much as possible about my kit and it's past...
Many thanks, Scott.
This is my first post on this forum, I have a flying helmet collection (x 30ish), and various other AEA items.... You can see my writing on the subject at: flightgear's posterous - Home
I display my gear each year at Newark Air Museum's CockpitFest (although I missed this one as we'd just had a baby!)
Some photos of most of my collection: By Clicking Here
I got into aviation through volunteering for years on the Cranfield T5 Lightnings, XS452 and XS458.
I write, as I have a couple of questions regarding Vulcan kit:
1 - I have an AR-5 NBC hood, and a front crew Vulcan PEC that is a perfect fit the AR-5 NBC hood.
I wanted to know how many Vulcans were equipped for use of the AR-5? What era were they equipped? And did the Vulcan crews ever have to fly with them? (I recently looked round the Wellsbourne Vulcan, and the Seat portions of the PEC's were non-NBC.)
Typically would these have been worn wih a Mk3C or Mk4A helmet? Just thinking of what era's the AR-5 may have been used...
Do you have any photos of Vulcan Crews in NBC gear?
2 - I also recently bought a Vulcan rear crew PEC with Pressure Jerkin fitting. I have a Mk4 Pressure Jerkin - the Jerkin fitting seems to align quite well on Lightning, Bccaneer and Sea Vixen PEC's, but the Vulcan rear crew PEC seems a little long, as though the mask oxy hose would poke you in the chin! Was there a special Jerkin for the Vulcan rear crew?
3 - I understand the Taylor Woodhouse and Baxter Type E, and GQ parachute company Partial Pressure Helmets were used in the Vulcans in the early days, but these were replaced by pressure demand masks as it was deemed as only necessary as a "Get Me Down" precaution following a cabin de-pressurisation...
What masks were suitable for flying with the pressure jerkins? A-13, M-Type or P/Q-Type? Would the Vulcan's have been operated with all mask types over the years in conjunction with Pressure Jerkins?
Just trying to learn as much as possible about my kit and it's past...
Many thanks, Scott.
ScottBouch you just posted Squipper porn 
AR-5 on the Mk.4A? They were a pain to re-fit the day before TACEVALs.. Best dodge on exercise was to 'accidentally' lock the DI staff in the PBF airlock for a quarter of an hour whilst you 'tried' to sort out the door mechanism
AR-5 on the Mk.4A? They were a pain to re-fit the day before TACEVALs.. Best dodge on exercise was to 'accidentally' lock the DI staff in the PBF airlock for a quarter of an hour whilst you 'tried' to sort out the door mechanism