CHF - Merlin Mk 4
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Sqns will fold and people will be spread across the rest of the organisation. Plenty of gaps to fill....
Not sure if one of the numberplates will become a new chinook sqn?
Not sure if one of the numberplates will become a new chinook sqn?
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If they are going to use a low number for a new Chinnok unit there is 12 19 20 to start with and if we have had 7 and 18 using Chinooks for over 30 years I guess 12 being the new unit is acceptable
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If a new Sqn were formed I'd not look much further than 28(AC)...however if the Chinook assimilation of Tornado number plates after 27 were to continue, then 12 would be a good choice...
Let's get back to sqn numbers that mean something in the role.
So for the rotaries: 194 - the first RAF rotary sqn. 103, 110, 225, 66 all with distinguished service but all - regrettably - not in accordance with the RAF's numbering policy. Great pity!!
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So for the rotaries: 194 - the first RAF rotary sqn. 103, 110, 225, 66 all with distinguished service but all - regrettably - not in accordance with the RAF's numbering policy. Great pity!!
Old Duffer
OD,
I tried to get 225 re-instated a few years back....nobody would listen....don't forget that 26 had a brief RW incarnation with the Belvedere. It would be nice if 26, 27 and 28 were all RW numberplates.
I tried to get 225 re-instated a few years back....nobody would listen....don't forget that 26 had a brief RW incarnation with the Belvedere. It would be nice if 26, 27 and 28 were all RW numberplates.
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One would hope that they will fill them full of Royals on a fairly frequent basis, and then empty them again a short distance away
Edit for - fat fingers. D'Oh!
Edit for - fat fingers. D'Oh!
They'll only 'fill' them with Royals if it's sea level, cold and the beach isn't too far away.....
FAA have always had more Merlins - now, sensibly, they are all under one roof. How long before CHF are extracted out of JHC and the Andover experiment collapses in on itself?
FAA have always had more Merlins - now, sensibly, they are all under one roof. How long before CHF are extracted out of JHC and the Andover experiment collapses in on itself?
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Originally Posted by seadrills
What is the Naval Air Force going to do with all of these merlins ?
Alfred, agreed, but CHF haven't done much at SL over the last 10 years. Remember, somewhere like the NAG with an OAT of +45 it's like starting at over 3500ft....the SK was, frankly, near useless in those conditions - the Mk4 Merlin will be better, but it still won't be a CH47 nor, maybe, a Mk2 Puma...
Of course, if CHF only hang around Norway then all will be well.
Of course, if CHF only hang around Norway then all will be well.
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Hang on a minute Evaluator. Are you saying that a Chinook can lift more than a Merlin?
1 sec, let me get a pen and write that down...
Do any of the Sqn Numbering geeks/enthusiasts/SMEs want to venture an opinion on the demise of 848 & 702 NAS and how the RN are going might cope or not with only 2 Junglie and 2 Maritime Lynx/Wildcat Sqns?
Pen at the ready as before!
1 sec, let me get a pen and write that down...
Do any of the Sqn Numbering geeks/enthusiasts/SMEs want to venture an opinion on the demise of 848 & 702 NAS and how the RN are going might cope or not with only 2 Junglie and 2 Maritime Lynx/Wildcat Sqns?
Pen at the ready as before!
the Mk4 Merlin will be better, but it still won't be a CH47 nor, maybe, a Mk2 Puma...
It ain't all about QE you know.
Lofty - I might just have broken the OSA in giving away performance secrets! The FAA, like the RAF, wil just have to get used to fewer Sqns. I don't agree that the FAA has a 'critical' point looming - there is still a rump of ASW/ASuW Sqns. I thought the idea of the common cockpit between Mk2 and Mk4 Merlin was to enable crews to move between roles (as in SK days).
NAB-stop being so precious. A CH47 only takes up an extra half spot or so compared to Merlin, for which you get 4 or 5 times the "punch per deck spot", almost total wind tolerance (I've landed at 30kts downwind on the CVS - the ships nav was quite happy he didn't gave to turn....) and the ability to lift Royals' heavy kit. Ergo, any future 'war' TAG will inevitably include Chinook. I know it's not all about QEC, and so does the RN - that's why the T45 and T26 decks have been designed to be CH47 compatible.....
NAB-stop being so precious. A CH47 only takes up an extra half spot or so compared to Merlin, for which you get 4 or 5 times the "punch per deck spot", almost total wind tolerance (I've landed at 30kts downwind on the CVS - the ships nav was quite happy he didn't gave to turn....) and the ability to lift Royals' heavy kit. Ergo, any future 'war' TAG will inevitably include Chinook. I know it's not all about QEC, and so does the RN - that's why the T45 and T26 decks have been designed to be CH47 compatible.....
Never said it wouldn't. The Wokka is a fantastic piece of kit. The only issue is that if it has to live on an AFSH, LPD, LSD then nothing else can happen on that deck. Ergo, it can't all be Wokka - you need something else as well, able to range clear of the spot or in the hangar. Something qualified in a naval EM environment, with SHOLS for relevant ships, foldable and with adequate stability on landing.....
Hence there's more to life than QE/CVS/LPH.....
Hence there's more to life than QE/CVS/LPH.....