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Just heard that this is opening up again, does anyone have a link to the new GAI 1028 AL4? Is it ture that those on a PVR are not eligible?
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Champagne anyone...?
AL1 is on the RAF website and that doesn't specify any restriction on those departing on PVR terms. I'd be interested to see the latest AL though and if a PVR limitation has been introduced. As I'm on PAS it's the only way out for me but I don't want to cock up my BA app but not checking all the info thoroughly....
No Problem Answering This One !
Good luck to those applying. At least you won't have any trouble answering this question on the application !
"Give an example of when you have been involved in a major change in the work environment. How did you adapt to this and what did you learn?"
"Give an example of when you have been involved in a major change in the work environment. How did you adapt to this and what did you learn?"
Which is bad news for all those spec aircrew(PA or FTC(A)) or any RN pilot on a full term commission - that's a lot, who don't have any exit points. The ONLY way to leave from an FTC is by PVR prior to age 50.
That'll be all the RN Harrier pilots screwed again then. Better be a good redundancy announcement on Monday.
I wonder if BA realise the number of people this no pvr rule will exclude?
That'll be all the RN Harrier pilots screwed again then. Better be a good redundancy announcement on Monday.
I wonder if BA realise the number of people this no pvr rule will exclude?
Might I suggest that anyone considering joining BA talks to someone who has recently joined. I feel sure it is not the inspiring workplace it used to be! You only have to view the cabin crew forum to get some idea of what an unhappy workplace it can be!
And thats before you consider longhaul flying up to 900 hours a year to age 60 and beyond!
Just a word of caution to all those who view BA as the be all and end all.
And thats before you consider longhaul flying up to 900 hours a year to age 60 and beyond!
Just a word of caution to all those who view BA as the be all and end all.
Might I suggest that anyone considering joining BA talks to someone who has recently joined. I feel sure it is not the inspiring workplace it used to be!
Yes, the cabin crew have been a problem, but the pilots don't allow that to make their lives unhappy. The legacy cabin crew have had a showdown coming for a long time, it's arrived, and now they are paying for it. C'est la vie! The newly recruited cabin crew are an altogether different bunch.
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I wonder if BA realise the number of people this no pvr rule will exclude?
But don’t despair; a lot of other airlines are about ready to open their doors to experienced pilots.
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Their Q1 is going to be quite difficult to answer....
Presumably the act of applying means that you're not committed to your current service employer?!
What are the behaviours that demonstrate your motivation and commitment to your current service employer?
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Might I suggest that anyone considering joining BA talks to someone who has recently joined. I feel sure it is not the inspiring workplace it used to be! You only have to view the cabin crew forum to get some idea of what an unhappy workplace it can be!
Times certainly change and BA might not be what it used to be 15 years ago, but it's a damn sight better than anything else out there (and sadly, that includes the RAF).
I'm glad to hear you are enjoying it bowly.
I did 15 years with BA after the RAF and did not find it such a rewarding experience! I must add that aviation as a whole is not what it used to be, whatever job you are in. Its a fact of life I'm afraid.
I did 15 years with BA after the RAF and did not find it such a rewarding experience! I must add that aviation as a whole is not what it used to be, whatever job you are in. Its a fact of life I'm afraid.
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Fair enough. I'm surprised that you didn't enjoy it though? I agree that aviation is not what it used to be but if you're in aviation at the moment, BA is a better place than any other. As for the Cabin Crew.........don't start
Fair enough. I'm surprised that you didn't enjoy it though? I agree that aviation is not what it used to be but if you're in aviation at the moment, BA is a better place than any other. As for the Cabin Crew.........don't start
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AL4 of the GAI is subtely different!
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Now that I have seen AL4 of the GAI, it has some sutble gotcha's that might prevent post 16/38pt PA types from using the managed path. I don't see how they are going to police this though, are BA going to verify each applicant with Manning? Rather than offer selection / employment to the highly qualified, experienced and motivated individual?
To be fair the airlines offer reasonably good pay and conditions but the job can become boring very quickly. That is an informed opinion from the friends I have in BA, Virgin, Easy and BMI. The only reason I would consider leaving military aviation is to take a break from the constant deployment to the desert. The flying that we do can be a lot more interesting than crossing the atlantic 3-4 times a month with an over unionized crew of militants.
Interesting to see that redundancy make you eligible for the scheme. Will there be some pilot's included in the next tranche?
"Those pilots who make early departures introduce manning difficulties and generate additional costs in training replacements." IMO that sentence is a poor choice of words, not very motivating for the troops.
Now that I have seen AL4 of the GAI, it has some sutble gotcha's that might prevent post 16/38pt PA types from using the managed path. I don't see how they are going to police this though, are BA going to verify each applicant with Manning? Rather than offer selection / employment to the highly qualified, experienced and motivated individual?
To be fair the airlines offer reasonably good pay and conditions but the job can become boring very quickly. That is an informed opinion from the friends I have in BA, Virgin, Easy and BMI. The only reason I would consider leaving military aviation is to take a break from the constant deployment to the desert. The flying that we do can be a lot more interesting than crossing the atlantic 3-4 times a month with an over unionized crew of militants.
Interesting to see that redundancy make you eligible for the scheme. Will there be some pilot's included in the next tranche?
"Those pilots who make early departures introduce manning difficulties and generate additional costs in training replacements." IMO that sentence is a poor choice of words, not very motivating for the troops.
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Frankly it's whatever floats your boat/different strokes for different folks...or don't knock it until you've personally tried both "schools".
I can guarantee you that flying a Canarsie approach into JFK, in a heavy, on a ****te night, or any approach into MEX on a good day can be a lot more interesting than some of the stuff I did on the F-4.
As for the cabin crew, they may be over unionised but as individuals some of them are very good company both on and off the aeroplane.
The flying that we do can be a lot more interesting than crossing the atlantic 3-4 times a month with an over unionized crew of militants.
I can guarantee you that flying a Canarsie approach into JFK, in a heavy, on a ****te night, or any approach into MEX on a good day can be a lot more interesting than some of the stuff I did on the F-4.
As for the cabin crew, they may be over unionised but as individuals some of them are very good company both on and off the aeroplane
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Another BA convert I'm afraid. Less interesting flying? Absolutely, though every day is still different and at least I'm flying, not sitting behind a desk in High Wycombe, MOD, Kandahar, MPA or wherever. The plus side is that my kids know when I'm going to be at home (volcanoes/snow storms excepted) but if I choose not to be at home they are paying me overtime at about £200 a day (BA, not the kids) and they get a really comfy seat to go on holiday in (subject to availability of course).
Unlike the C17/TriStar fleets flying the same route to the sandpit, day in, day out, then having to go cap in hand to DTMA for a route trainer just to keep guys proficient in operating into somewhere other than BZZ/KAF/AKT.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
but the job can become boring very quickly
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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If you need the GAI PM me your email. I have it on good authority that if you PVR and try and apply to BA through this scheme, BA contact manning to confirm eligibility and terminate your application. Good Luck
