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Old 13th Apr 2011, 23:32   #81 (permalink)
 
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How far off is the Meteor a-a missile from service?
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 23:34   #82 (permalink)
 
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Does the CIA have its own seismic boats and drillships that operate in a cloak of invisibility?
They have lots of stuff we can only dream of...

But in answer to your question you will find former counter terrorism chief of M16 is now a senior adviser to BP so why not just control the information internally.

MI6 agent joined disgraced BP boss in secret meetings with Gaddafi

CIA have form for overthrowing Govt's to ensure Oil is looked after.
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Old 14th Apr 2011, 07:09   #83 (permalink)
 
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How far off is the Meteor a-a missile from service?
The partners agreed a few years ago to delay it until 2015. France is expecting it in service in 2018 on Rafale.

France Purchases 200 Meteor Missiles - Defense News

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The Intelligence Services?

Actually they are a pretty average bunch of incompetents - they never forecast the Arab risings, the fall of the USSR and most other major events

mainly their function is to be photographed by Russian TV hiding stuff under stones in Moscow parks

mainly people who went to minor public school and not bright enough to get a job in the City
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mainly people who went to minor public school and not bright enough to get a job in the City
A bit like those banker wankers then.
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Britain; A 'crude colonial power in decline': Argentinian President

Argentinian President Cristina Kirchner has referred to Britain as a 'crude colonial power in decline' and suggested that Argentina and Britain should 'negotiate over the South Atlantic islands'.

The response came after Mr Cameron told the Commons on Wednesday: "I would say this: as long as the Falkland Islands want to be a sovereign British territory, they should remain a sovereign British territory - full stop, end of story."

She branded Mr Cameron "arrogant" and said his remarks were an expression of "mediocrity and stupidity".

More tosh here
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 13:16   #87 (permalink)

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She branded Mr Cameron "arrogant" and said his remarks were an expression of "mediocrity and stupidity".
I'd take that as a compliment coming from an expert.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 13:24   #88 (permalink)
 
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Britian a colonial power in decline would appear to be a fact beyond dispute since 100 years ago we were the most powerful nation on Earth and today we cannot even bribe/bully a bunch of said colonials into giving us the world cup...an we haven't won the Eurovision Song contest for years.

As for Cameron, he looks like an arrogant, dim-witted ar*e to me, but maybe that is because I'm a bit bitter that he sh1t canned Coastal Command after eight decades of loyal service to this maritime nation.

All in all I reckon I reckon she is spot on...even if she is a self-serving Argie political .

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I take exception to the calling us crude though.
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She branded Mr Cameron "arrogant" and said his remarks were an expression of "mediocrity and stupidity".
Well the Americans consider cyber attacks an act of war so surely this must qualify?

Proportionate (nuclear) response anyone?
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Given suggestions on sites that Arsenals are getting low because of the continued campaign in Libya and the overall stretch that forces are under there must be concern that if Argentina decides to ratchet up a campaign there is nothing to stop them.

Personally think it would have been better to send the Harriers and all the kit to the Islands while placing numerous dispersal points that could be used quickly as that would have kept them battle ready and provided a deterrent.
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OK, here we go again . . .

Right, as I've said SOo many times before.

Give every Falkland Islander a million quid and a Spanish dictionary. Then listen to the deafening silence.

We'd save a fortune, improve relations, stop stretching our resources beyond breaking point and so on.

. . . then someone mentioned oil.

If the USA are not going to support us (and it looks like they won't), Sandy Woodward has got it right, we're stuffed.

Save a few billion and perhaps Lyneham could stay open (if they haven't sold the land for development yet).
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Having done a tour down in the Falklands, I am inclined to agree - I wasn't overly impressed with the Bennies then and I remain unimpressed now. Nevertheless, the place is not completely undefended and could be reinforced quickly, but we do not have enough infantry down there and rely upon the FIDF for land-based recce. A bigger bunch of yahoos in HM Forces I have yet to encounter. I cannot see the Army being in a position to provide a Regular battalion constantly, but it would be an ideal role for a TA battalion with a revised ORBAT of the RIC (Reg) and Bn HQ and Rifle Coy plus (TA) and the FIDF as the third manoeuvre sub-unit. The FIDF should become a TA unit with a similar status to the Royal Gibraltar Regiment and the Bermuda Regiment, equipped with standard issue British Military equipment instead of walting-it-up gear purchased from Silvermans/Arktis and wherever else they wish to spend their fishing licence revenue. And while I am at it, there shoul be a full RAF Regiment Field Sqn deployed at MPA too - its unique mix of ISTAR/81mm mortars/GPMG SF/WMIK make it a force to be reckoned with as dismounted close combat specialists. It could even be added to the putative Battlegroup as a fourth manoeuvre sub-unit. That would easily be sufficient to defeat any Argentinian landing force.
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Given suggestions on sites that Arsenals are getting low because of the continued campaign in Libya and the overall stretch that forces are under there must be concern that if Argentina decides to ratchet up a campaign there is nothing to stop them.

Personally think it would have been better to send the Harriers and all the kit to the Islands while placing numerous dispersal points that could be used quickly as that would have kept them battle ready and provided a deterrent.
Don't be silly Racedo, that would be logical and, therefore, totally out of keeping with current defence policy!
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 16:42   #94 (permalink)
 
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oops sorry as that wouldn't go down well as it doesn't involve lots of spurious trips for the procurement teams in plush hotels.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 18:13   #95 (permalink)

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How could there be a war involving the UK if we can't get there?
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You can't get there....but you have nothing to transport....and when it is all said and done....you are no longer in decline....but more like in a supine posture gazing at the heavens wondering what happened to you.

The UK along with its NATO allies are stuffed in dealing with a tinpot dictator in Tripoli....yet some of you think you can repeat the Falkland War with far less gear than you had last time....oh..my...indeed!

Most wars are won or lost by logistics...no matter how sharp the Troops are.

You/ve lost this one already in my view unless the Argies are in a similar situation militarily as the UK appears to be.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 18:44   #97 (permalink)
 
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Respectfully disagree, SASless.

Let us suppose an armed SSN on patrol with a permissive RoE. This creates a considerably different set up for the Argentine occupation plans.

I noted earlier how you foil an invasion. Seaborne and airborne invasions are non trivial exercises in power projection. With a prepared and warned force, a modest force (with kit as I describe above) can make the invasion cost prohibitive.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 18:52   #98 (permalink)
 
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I suppose it IS interesting that the UK is currently employing it's armed forces to defend a bunch of folk who really don't want us there anymore, whilst there are a bunch of our own citizens who are coming under apparently more threats and danger to their basic freedoms [there the yanks will like that bit] and we don't seem to want to do anything about it.

How bizarre.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 22:03   #99 (permalink)
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If the Argentinians started anything serious they would have to contend with a rather different Falklands Islands defence than the last time, are they up to this?

What is the Argentinians anti-submarine capability? Are they up to dealing with ground based anti-aircraft missile batteries?

Any sea borne invasion would risk running the gauntlet of submarine defences and an airborne assault would be shot out of the sky, wouldn't it?
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They could do it, but it would be costly.
I would also think that to do it, it would have to be done quickly (as in try to do it with surprise) using Airborne and Sea landings.
And I don't think they would be able to take everything in one go so they would be contending with a resourceful BTL force.

And would they be prepared for the UK to attack mainland Argentina
and would the UK do it ?
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