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To rh200; as I understand it because they, along with Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar and several others are British Overseas territories, ie they are not part of the UK but acknowledge HM as the head of state. They have their own government, currency, flag etc but save a bundle by borrowing our Head of State and, I think, stuff like the FO.
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Indeed, that is why they sail under thair own flag. I suspect it is a requirement. That's not to say that vessels can't be re-registered in another country to get around the blockade. It happens a lot.
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but save a bundle by borrowing our Head of State and, I think, stuff like the FO.
. The Falklands setup sounds like a claytons type country, from my view point you want to be a pom or you don't. No good having a valuable amount of whats left of Liz's armed forces over there and not being fully commited.
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And didn't ol Liz get a reception and a half over where you are the other month ?
Very impressive, as was the reception she got everywhere.
And didn't ol Liz get a reception and a half over where you are the other month ?
Very impressive, as was the reception she got everywhere.
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No good having a valuable amount of whats left of Liz's armed forces over there and not being fully commited.
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Britain duts off war plans with call to send nuclear submarine to Falklands as Argentine joins forces with Brazil and Uruguay in overt anti-British stance designed to diminish the UK's standing in Latin America
Military chiefs are dusting off their plans for the defence of the Falklands after South American countries banned ships from the islands docking in their ports. Sources fear Prince William's six-month deployment to the South Atlantic as an air-sea rescue pilot next year could provoke more sabre-rattling. Yesterday Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner claimed Britain was ready to use its military to steal natural resources 'anywhere, anyhow'.
She said: 'They're currently taking our oil reserves and fish stocks from the Falklands but when they need more natural resources they will come and use force to steal them wherever and however they can.'Mercosur, the South American trading block which also includes Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay have agreed to ban boats sailing under the Falklands flag from docking at their ports – even though Paraguay does not even have a coastline.The ban affects around 25 ships – some of which are fishing vessels working for a Spanish company.
Argentina still claims the islands – held by Britain since the 1830s – are theirs, despite their crushing defeat in the 1982 Falklands War.Former Defence Secretary Liam Fox asked to see the war plans for the defence of the Falklands in 2010 and examined the plans twice as they were adapted. New Defence Secretary Philip Hammond, who took over in October, has also been briefed.
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Military chiefs are dusting off their plans for the defence of the Falklands after South American countries banned ships from the islands docking in their ports. Sources fear Prince William's six-month deployment to the South Atlantic as an air-sea rescue pilot next year could provoke more sabre-rattling. Yesterday Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner claimed Britain was ready to use its military to steal natural resources 'anywhere, anyhow'.
She said: 'They're currently taking our oil reserves and fish stocks from the Falklands but when they need more natural resources they will come and use force to steal them wherever and however they can.'Mercosur, the South American trading block which also includes Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay have agreed to ban boats sailing under the Falklands flag from docking at their ports – even though Paraguay does not even have a coastline.The ban affects around 25 ships – some of which are fishing vessels working for a Spanish company.
Argentina still claims the islands – held by Britain since the 1830s – are theirs, despite their crushing defeat in the 1982 Falklands War.Former Defence Secretary Liam Fox asked to see the war plans for the defence of the Falklands in 2010 and examined the plans twice as they were adapted. New Defence Secretary Philip Hammond, who took over in October, has also been briefed.
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Whilst not under estimating the enemy, 73,100 troops all on the mainland.
They have to get them to the islands first to be effective and with a much more
switched on UK, might be harder than they think. And then of course, if they did get them on the island, they would have to hold them, which has already proved "an island too far" before.
They have to get them to the islands first to be effective and with a much more
switched on UK, might be harder than they think. And then of course, if they did get them on the island, they would have to hold them, which has already proved "an island too far" before.
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And didn't ol Liz get a reception and a half over where you are the other month ?
And then of course, if they did get them on the island, they would have to hold them, which has already proved "an island too far" before.
Without wishing to state the bleeding obvious, there was one major difference twixt then and now............ Only relevant of course, if we don't keep hold of them in the first place.
Without wishing to state the bleeding obvious, there was one major difference twixt then and now............ Only relevant of course, if we don't keep hold of them in the first place.
What an brilliant newspaper clipping! I'm so reassured now that I know we can get Tornado fighter jets and HMS Ocean + Apaches to the Falklands within days! And I love the sound of Royal Navy 'land craft' - is that like a 4-tonner or just the usual beaten-up Astra?
Such a shame, though, that HRH's 'six-month deployment' as an 'air-sea rescue' pilot is causing trouble.
Let me guess, is it from the Mail? Or maybe the Express?
Such a shame, though, that HRH's 'six-month deployment' as an 'air-sea rescue' pilot is causing trouble.
Let me guess, is it from the Mail? Or maybe the Express?
More than a few things wrong with that infrographic:
"Pucara fighters dating back to the 1950s"
"25 attack helicopters" - a tooled-up Huey or JetRanger does not an Apache make.
I think essentially it all boils down to the one hunter killer submarine. So long as the Argentines have nothing to counter this there will be no invasion.
"Pucara fighters dating back to the 1950s"
"25 attack helicopters" - a tooled-up Huey or JetRanger does not an Apache make.
I think essentially it all boils down to the one hunter killer submarine. So long as the Argentines have nothing to counter this there will be no invasion.
And we don't have any Tornado fighter jets, only Tornado bomber jets. The battalion of infantrymen are either in the sandpit or looking after the kids while their wives are all away singing.
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And we don't have any Tornado fighter jets, only Tornado bomber jets.
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why don't we simply start an independance movement among the Welsh in Patagonia? Much of that province was settled by Welsh-speakers, not Spansh speakers and for much of the 20th century their culture was ruthlessly suppressed - even to the point of banning Welsh (or English) christian names
Christina is riding the wave of re-election from earlier this year but her country is divided and has an economy that is going down the tubes (again). Uruguayans don't actually like the Argentines that much and have probably agreed to this for the sake of a quiet life.
Interestingly, Uruguay has its own island dispute with Argentina over an island in the River Plate which the Argies decided would be better off flying their flag instead of Uruguay's.
Saw someone who purported to be an Argentine military pilot wearing a Malvinas badge (complete with Falklands map) on his arm this year - haven't laughed so hard for ages.
Interestingly, Uruguay has its own island dispute with Argentina over an island in the River Plate which the Argies decided would be better off flying their flag instead of Uruguay's.
Saw someone who purported to be an Argentine military pilot wearing a Malvinas badge (complete with Falklands map) on his arm this year - haven't laughed so hard for ages.
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I wonder what this is about?
From today's Buenos Aires Herald
"The head of the Navy, Admiral Jorge Godoy, requested removal from his post after being accused of illegal espionage. The Government chose Deputy Admiral Carlos Alberto Paz to take his place, a decision which was published today in the Official Gazette. By way of Decree 247, President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli, accepted the request for the “voluntary removal” of Godoy, and therefore “relieving him of his duties as Navy General."
Wonder who he was spying for?
From today's Buenos Aires Herald
"The head of the Navy, Admiral Jorge Godoy, requested removal from his post after being accused of illegal espionage. The Government chose Deputy Admiral Carlos Alberto Paz to take his place, a decision which was published today in the Official Gazette. By way of Decree 247, President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli, accepted the request for the “voluntary removal” of Godoy, and therefore “relieving him of his duties as Navy General."
Wonder who he was spying for?
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I wonder what this is about?
From today's Buenos Aires Herald
"The head of the Navy, Admiral Jorge Godoy, requested removal from his post after being accused of illegal espionage. The Government chose Deputy Admiral Carlos Alberto Paz to take his place, a decision which was published today in the Official Gazette. By way of Decree 247, President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli, accepted the request for the “voluntary removal” of Godoy, and therefore “relieving him of his duties as Navy General."
Wonder who he was spying for?
From today's Buenos Aires Herald
"The head of the Navy, Admiral Jorge Godoy, requested removal from his post after being accused of illegal espionage. The Government chose Deputy Admiral Carlos Alberto Paz to take his place, a decision which was published today in the Official Gazette. By way of Decree 247, President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli, accepted the request for the “voluntary removal” of Godoy, and therefore “relieving him of his duties as Navy General."
Wonder who he was spying for?
And Adm Godoy was a protege of the current government; he was the head of the navy for an unusual (unheard of) term of 8 years. 
