Decision to axe Harrier is "bonkers".
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NFSF(FW) are a bunch of gash pilots that tool around in Hawks for no real reason anymore. Does that answer your question?
..and light blue wonder why the Military (FAA included) think they are c*nts?
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This thread reminds me of the Red Dwarf program when the computer tries to explain to 'Rimmer'?? that all the crew is dead... Rimmer will not accept they atre all dead and starts asking about individuals.
"Excuse me, how much is this?"
"A pound, sir"
"How about this?"
"Also a pound"
How much is this?"
"It's a pound, sir. This is a pound shop, everything costs one pound"
"Oh okay, sorry"...brief pause
"How much is this one?" etc etc
And so on, ad nauseam...
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"It's sickening that the TSR2 programme has been reduced to rivet sales"
people forget it was a very long way from service - there were issues with the engine & undercarriage and none of the systems had been fitted and tested IIRC
The programme was eating everyone else s lunch money-wise
people forget it was a very long way from service - there were issues with the engine & undercarriage and none of the systems had been fitted and tested IIRC
The programme was eating everyone else s lunch money-wise
Not living in the past, but the issues mentioned throughout this thread are still not resolved:
1. Training deck crews and others for future: It would appear that the number of RN deck personnel such as aircraft handlers on exchange is very low - just EIGHT according to this article.
After finishing their exchange I assume these personnel return to the UK, where they will then have no opportunity to practise and maintain those skills (handling/operating fixed wing aircraft at sea) that they have been relearning.
Clearly we need to do more to train future deck crews as accidents will be expensive and involve the risk of fatalities. Perhaps we are/will - but how?
2. According to this paper written by a USMC guy who did an exchange with the RN back in the Sea Harrier days, the experience of CTOL operations may not be the place to obtain optimal expertise for STOVL operations.
3. As a result of the Levene forms, the new First Sea Lord will have more control over budgetary issues and on how policy is implemented.
4. We are now preparing for a future where Afghanistan is not the key to our defence policy, and a possible return to the Gulf may be on the cards. BBC News - 'East of Suez': Are UK forces returning?
I have heard nothing to contradict the rumours I alluded to back in October/November, but I have heard/seen things which strengthen my thoughts that things do not add up. How are we going to prepare for the (STOVL) future?
1. Training deck crews and others for future: It would appear that the number of RN deck personnel such as aircraft handlers on exchange is very low - just EIGHT according to this article.
After talking to them, I discovered that aside from the three British sailors on board Kearsarge, there are five more of them aboard the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69).
Clearly we need to do more to train future deck crews as accidents will be expensive and involve the risk of fatalities. Perhaps we are/will - but how?
2. According to this paper written by a USMC guy who did an exchange with the RN back in the Sea Harrier days, the experience of CTOL operations may not be the place to obtain optimal expertise for STOVL operations.
3. As a result of the Levene forms, the new First Sea Lord will have more control over budgetary issues and on how policy is implemented.
4. We are now preparing for a future where Afghanistan is not the key to our defence policy, and a possible return to the Gulf may be on the cards. BBC News - 'East of Suez': Are UK forces returning?
I have heard nothing to contradict the rumours I alluded to back in October/November, but I have heard/seen things which strengthen my thoughts that things do not add up. How are we going to prepare for the (STOVL) future?
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