F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
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It seems old news is good news, especially if it's another dagger in the back.
Did someone really die in an F-35 due to Oxy issues? Really?! Or was it actually an F-22?! This regurgitated article has more holes than Swiss cheese.
Did someone really die in an F-35 due to Oxy issues? Really?! Or was it actually an F-22?! This regurgitated article has more holes than Swiss cheese.
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Interesting piece on the 'All Singing-n-Dancing' F-35 Bonedome ... makes the old Mk1a look positively prehistoric 
Washington Post : F-35 360 View Bonedome
Washington Post : F-35 360 View Bonedome
F-35 Flies Against F-16....
Interesting piece by Guy Norris and Amy Butler in Aviation Week.
One thing it doesn't mention, however, is what the scores were!
F-35 Tested Against F-16 In Basic Fighter Maneuvers | Defense content from Aviation Week
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F-35 Tested Against F-16 In Basic Fighter Maneuvers | Defense content from Aviation Week
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test pilots say the aircraft can be cleared for greater agility as a growth option...
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
test pilots say the aircraft can be cleared for greater agility as a growth option...
Well, reading the article I can only come to the conclusion that the F-35 came off second best, cos' if it had won the DoD and LM would be shouting it from the rooftops. This 'greater agility as a growth option' has spin doctor written all over it, unfortunately.
Interesting story indeed...
Back in the Stone Age, a senior guy from an airplane company not a million miles from Foat Wuff told me how they were breaking "agility" down into two components: Maneuverability, measured by the established Boydian things like Ps, wing loading and T/W, and controllability, which meant removing envelope limits, being able to roll at high alpha (which was a limitation on his main product at the time), and generally being able to change energy states quickly and in a way of your own choosing.
FW's always been good at flight controls, so it is hardly surprising that a postively-to-neutrally stable airplane with big aft H-tails has a big controllable envelope.
But apparently the program doesn't want to talk about the classic Boydian measures, or about how quickly you can get out of a high-alpha low-airspeed position (that is, you don't want to be a grape). However, they do seem to be scrabbling around for marginal improvements by tinkering with control laws, which tells its own story, does it not?
Note that the FW conversation cited above was around the time that MiGs were doing tailslides and Sus were doing cobras, and the rip against those was in terms of controllability - you could do it but everyone knew where you were going next. The Su-35 shows how that has been fixed with 3-axis vectoring and integrated thrust/vector/aero control.
Back in the Stone Age, a senior guy from an airplane company not a million miles from Foat Wuff told me how they were breaking "agility" down into two components: Maneuverability, measured by the established Boydian things like Ps, wing loading and T/W, and controllability, which meant removing envelope limits, being able to roll at high alpha (which was a limitation on his main product at the time), and generally being able to change energy states quickly and in a way of your own choosing.
FW's always been good at flight controls, so it is hardly surprising that a postively-to-neutrally stable airplane with big aft H-tails has a big controllable envelope.
But apparently the program doesn't want to talk about the classic Boydian measures, or about how quickly you can get out of a high-alpha low-airspeed position (that is, you don't want to be a grape). However, they do seem to be scrabbling around for marginal improvements by tinkering with control laws, which tells its own story, does it not?
Note that the FW conversation cited above was around the time that MiGs were doing tailslides and Sus were doing cobras, and the rip against those was in terms of controllability - you could do it but everyone knew where you were going next. The Su-35 shows how that has been fixed with 3-axis vectoring and integrated thrust/vector/aero control.
The aircraft is going to be a bargain if you believe this article:
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-...han-you-think/
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-...han-you-think/
I'm inclined to agree with you Martin, when you say
But I'm a bit surprised that AvWeek didn't include a bit of OpEd indicating what they thought was the strength of their story. The comments under the online version do pick all the expected holes.
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Well, reading the article I can only come to the conclusion that the F-35 came off second best, cos' if it had won the DoD and LM would be shouting it from the rooftops. This 'greater agility as a growth option' has spin doctor written all over it, unfortunately.
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Right, TL - A perfect example of how spin works. UK Defence Journal (which appears to be a one-man op) even cites the original DoD release, which makes it perfectly clear that the "cost reductions" are based on general economic projections and have ****-all to do with whether the jet takes fewer manhours to build, breaks less often or takes less time to fix.
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The latest economic "spin projection" to come up for the F-35 is reduced operational costs resulting from current cheap oil. Cheaper oil leads to cheaper jet fuel, therefore, the F-35 benefits and the US DoD is taking advantage of this in their forward looking operational cost projections. No mention of revised future projections should the cost of oil rise…
the "cost reductions" are based on general economic projections
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I personally found the story of test pilots engaged in air-to-air work brilliant. Haven't laughed so much in weeks. Test pilots! In combat training! Fabulous. I thought wind ups were a thing of the past, and they even got it into the press. Well done to all concerned!
MandS aka Kurt Plummer aka Lop Eared Galoot (LEG) is always interesting. But so far out, sometimes, that it's hard to tell whether his stream-of-consciousness databursts can be relied on.
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I personally found the story of test pilots engaged in air-to-air work brilliant. Haven't laughed so much in weeks. Test pilots! In combat training! Fabulous. I thought wind ups were a thing of the past, and they even got it into the press. Well done to all concerned!
I think he knows a thing or two about combat training !