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Air intakes / filters. The engines are in the nose
American ones with piston engines have a smooth nose
In real life they looked more "butch" than ugly. Especially the navy ones when armed up with rockets and AS-12
Air intakes / filters. The engines are in the nose
American ones with piston engines have a smooth nose
In real life they looked more "butch" than ugly. Especially the navy ones when armed up with rockets and AS-12
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born one mile from Bunford lane, raised thee miles west of Bunford lane and directly under the Yeovilton flight path
I reckon I've seen more of them than most of you!
Santa even used to visit our school in one (thanks to Sharky I believe)
I reckon I've seen more of them than most of you!
Santa even used to visit our school in one (thanks to Sharky I believe)
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Topflat26 ref Crossmaglen............
I remember the Argyles in Crossmaglen in 1972 and the unfortunate loss of the 3 soldiers. I believe I was the Puma tasked to recover the injured to the Belfast Hospital. One had already died before being put in the ac and the other two died in hospital. A very sad day. RIP chaps. 
There is a long 'I learnt about flying from that' Puma story connected to that incident.
I still think it is too early after the NI proceedings to expand on it within this forum.
I was also in Aden when 'Mad Mitch' (Col of the Argyles) did his thing! - fantastic stuff!!
There is a long 'I learnt about flying from that' Puma story connected to that incident.
I still think it is too early after the NI proceedings to expand on it within this forum.I was also in Aden when 'Mad Mitch' (Col of the Argyles) did his thing! - fantastic stuff!!
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Point of Order on the relative speed of rotary types in NI.
Pumas certainly suited the Greens with relatively long transits. 130kts versus 100/110kts is not a huge difference, especially in S. Armagh. Had a go in a mate's Puma and was gobsmacked at how early you had to start deceleration. Wessex anticipators enabled you to flare like a good'un and shed speed far quicker than a Puma. Jungly Sea Kings were a bigger machine and only did 90kts, but you wouldn't take the piss coz they'd laughingly punch your lights out.
Did a Stanta work up once with a Puma flown by one of the rotary 'twins whose name implies good fortune'. Good example of two types complementing each other's strengths. A day long exercise was wrapped up in two hours when the DS ran out of scenarios.
Pumas certainly suited the Greens with relatively long transits. 130kts versus 100/110kts is not a huge difference, especially in S. Armagh. Had a go in a mate's Puma and was gobsmacked at how early you had to start deceleration. Wessex anticipators enabled you to flare like a good'un and shed speed far quicker than a Puma. Jungly Sea Kings were a bigger machine and only did 90kts, but you wouldn't take the piss coz they'd laughingly punch your lights out.
Did a Stanta work up once with a Puma flown by one of the rotary 'twins whose name implies good fortune'. Good example of two types complementing each other's strengths. A day long exercise was wrapped up in two hours when the DS ran out of scenarios.
Pumas certainly suited the Greens with relatively long transits. 130kts
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130 kts?
The Puma trick in NI was to get the landing gear up, pull 15 degrees of collective pitch and wait for the "mutual cover" Wessex to call "Buster, buster!" (= Slow down, we can't keep up).
(This was whilst carrying ATO's trailer underslung, then it would do only 130 kts. We always carried it because the Wessex couldn't even lift the USL).
For some reason, Wessex pilots never seemed to mention the subject once on the ground again.
Yes, I know, but it was the only fun we used to get...
The Puma trick in NI was to get the landing gear up, pull 15 degrees of collective pitch and wait for the "mutual cover" Wessex to call "Buster, buster!" (= Slow down, we can't keep up).
(This was whilst carrying ATO's trailer underslung, then it would do only 130 kts. We always carried it because the Wessex couldn't even lift the USL).
For some reason, Wessex pilots never seemed to mention the subject once on the ground again.
Yes, I know, but it was the only fun we used to get...
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
We always carried it because the Wessex couldn't even lift the USL
Got this pic on a similar task...anybody recognise the crewman?
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I flew both aircraft in NI, loved them both, but for NI, the Wessex was the girl for me! She was just better suited to the role throughout.
Don't be daft Shy, any Wessex coud lift a strop exactly like the one in the picture.
What was the location of the Wessex doing 110Kts? Fantasy Island?
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What was the location of the Wessex doing 110Kts? Fantasy Island?
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Puma = Flying machine that can hover.
Wessex = Hovering machine that could fly.
Wessex = Hovering machine that could fly.
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This was whilst carrying ATO's trailer underslung, then it would do only 130 kts.
It became unstable between 75-90 knots.
The instability could be 'flown through' and out the other side by Puma.
'Allegedley'
Overtaking an empty Wessex whilst carrying ATO with a vintage car horn 'bleep-bleep' on the RT; = SH banter.
Putting said USL direct on the primary hook without strop was a major error of judgement seconded only by not returning to EGAA to attach a strop (& look daft in front of Wsx mafia) but instead fly all the way to Dungannon at 40kts. Apparently that may have happened!
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Overtaking an empty Wessex whilst carrying ATO with a vintage car horn 'bleep-bleep' on the RT; = SH banter.
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Now you are assuming that I meant the IFF ident button.
Never assume, because........
I meant the little hand held gadget that had many, many noises that was usually particulary annoying when laser noises abounded in crewrooms, but it also had a 'vintage car horn' noise which could be used on the RT at moments such as that described.
Never assume, because........
I meant the little hand held gadget that had many, many noises that was usually particulary annoying when laser noises abounded in crewrooms, but it also had a 'vintage car horn' noise which could be used on the RT at moments such as that described.