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It appears I may have offended some people with my "twin-tailed tupperware jet" comment... It is therefore fitting that I no longer hide behind this thin PPrune logon veneer and reveal myself to the world:
My real name is Jason Richardson and I think the F-111 is heaps better than the Hornet.
[ 27 August 2001: Message edited by: Booger ]
My real name is Jason Richardson and I think the F-111 is heaps better than the Hornet.
[ 27 August 2001: Message edited by: Booger ]
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Booger,
Oh really???
Samuel - and yes - 1900 odd [F-111] hours and I couldn't get a refresher following a tour away from Amberfield until I revealed my plans to leave. Then they came asking 'what can we do'? - Too late. I was even asked to be on the Board to select some of them... - What an insult!!
Good luck to the Kiwis, I just wish I could fly the jet more. - Pity there are no hours to fly.
Oh really???
Samuel - and yes - 1900 odd [F-111] hours and I couldn't get a refresher following a tour away from Amberfield until I revealed my plans to leave. Then they came asking 'what can we do'? - Too late. I was even asked to be on the Board to select some of them... - What an insult!!
Good luck to the Kiwis, I just wish I could fly the jet more. - Pity there are no hours to fly.
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Hey Arm out the Window....
I resemble that remark!!
Go the All Blacks .... Aussy 134 ops normal!!
And for the interesting attitude shown by the uncharateristically whiney puke complaining about the Kiwis coming over and taking good jobs from good solid Tpt/Mar chaps waiting for a fighter slot ..
Eat me!! That is the kind of short-sighted attitude that continues to force the ADF to wallow in that 'best little army in the world' daydream that frightens me so.
It's called market forces, and if RAAF can't give these good blokes fast jet courses fast enough, thats an RAAF problem, not one for the RNZAF exodus.
I REALLY hate whiney Aussies!!!
I resemble that remark!!
Go the All Blacks .... Aussy 134 ops normal!!
And for the interesting attitude shown by the uncharateristically whiney puke complaining about the Kiwis coming over and taking good jobs from good solid Tpt/Mar chaps waiting for a fighter slot ..
Eat me!! That is the kind of short-sighted attitude that continues to force the ADF to wallow in that 'best little army in the world' daydream that frightens me so.
It's called market forces, and if RAAF can't give these good blokes fast jet courses fast enough, thats an RAAF problem, not one for the RNZAF exodus.
I REALLY hate whiney Aussies!!!
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Chinook.
Well said. I'm in Maritime and as far as I'm aware there isn't a long line of people who are trying to get to fighters. In fact, I don't know any, so if the Kiwi's want to come over
and fly Strike,
and are qualified
and can get on to the line faster
and solve the immediate problem of manning,
then the RAAF are going to take them.
Market forces.
doublehelix
Well said. I'm in Maritime and as far as I'm aware there isn't a long line of people who are trying to get to fighters. In fact, I don't know any, so if the Kiwi's want to come over
and fly Strike,
and are qualified
and can get on to the line faster
and solve the immediate problem of manning,
then the RAAF are going to take them.
Market forces.
doublehelix
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Helix
Just because you don't know of any guys waiting for fighters doesn't mean there aren't any. I know of several in my Sqn who are capable, suitable and are sitting on their hands while DPO slobbers over the foreigners. Their not being looked after because they have ROSO. They will remember their treatment when it expires.
You just don't get it do you. Look after your own people and you won't have to go searching the world for others.
Chinook.
Behave boy.
[ 30 August 2001: Message edited by: Dogsbreakfast ]
Just because you don't know of any guys waiting for fighters doesn't mean there aren't any. I know of several in my Sqn who are capable, suitable and are sitting on their hands while DPO slobbers over the foreigners. Their not being looked after because they have ROSO. They will remember their treatment when it expires.
You just don't get it do you. Look after your own people and you won't have to go searching the world for others.
Chinook.
Behave boy.
[ 30 August 2001: Message edited by: Dogsbreakfast ]
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Helix,
I'll behave when you come down to Townsville and make me laddie!
How's that for some servile-apologetic-I'm-not-a-native-born-Australian-bulls@(t?
Honestly, some people are so xenophobic ....
Kia Kaha boys
I'll behave when you come down to Townsville and make me laddie!
How's that for some servile-apologetic-I'm-not-a-native-born-Australian-bulls@(t?
Honestly, some people are so xenophobic ....
Kia Kaha boys
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Chinook,
DB told you to behave, not me.
DB,
I do get it.
I get that 4 kiwi's are going to join the RAAF.
I get that they will fly strike.
I get that you don't like it.
I get that the RAAF are taking them because they will make good drivers.
Are 4 RNZAF pilots going to cause that much concern? If they can slot in ahead of some transport or maritime(if there are any
)pilots because they have some skills that the others don't possess then good luck to them.
[ 31 August 2001: Message edited by: doublehelix ]
DB told you to behave, not me.
DB,
I do get it.
I get that 4 kiwi's are going to join the RAAF.
I get that they will fly strike.
I get that you don't like it.
I get that the RAAF are taking them because they will make good drivers.
Are 4 RNZAF pilots going to cause that much concern? If they can slot in ahead of some transport or maritime(if there are any
)pilots because they have some skills that the others don't possess then good luck to them.[ 31 August 2001: Message edited by: doublehelix ]
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A bit emotive don't you think DB?
The response would seem to indicate that the DOPA (or whatever they call Postings these days) in the Head Shed are overreacting (if in fact they are!)because they actually have some people they can post who are not going to moan from now until their Qantas seat becomes available, and they want to make the feeling last!
Personally, I don't believe four Flt Lts could possibly make that big a difference given the reputed number of vacancies.They should be regarded as a gift!And they'll be good at it.
[ 31 August 2001: Message edited by: Samuel ]
The response would seem to indicate that the DOPA (or whatever they call Postings these days) in the Head Shed are overreacting (if in fact they are!)because they actually have some people they can post who are not going to moan from now until their Qantas seat becomes available, and they want to make the feeling last!
Personally, I don't believe four Flt Lts could possibly make that big a difference given the reputed number of vacancies.They should be regarded as a gift!And they'll be good at it.
[ 31 August 2001: Message edited by: Samuel ]
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Thanks Chinook, Helix et al.
As one of the soon-to-be ex RNZAF ACF pilots we certainly don't want to be seen to be taking slots but...
if the RAAF doesn't want single seat jet pilots to fill holes on their front line sqns, then I feel that they're missing out.
There is a difference between a fast jet pilot (albeit from a foreign air force) and a transport/maritime pilot and their ability to go straight to a jet sqn. We already have the majority of the skills required on the F18, and shouldn't find it too hard to pick up the knowledge required.
As for a pilot from another role, you'd need to start back at the FLIT stage to learn things that we've been doing for the last 7 years.
The RAF have recognised this and are willing to put us out on the front line following a UK orientation (ie bad wx!) and then the OCU.
[ 01 September 2001: Message edited by: Douglas Driver ]
As one of the soon-to-be ex RNZAF ACF pilots we certainly don't want to be seen to be taking slots but...
if the RAAF doesn't want single seat jet pilots to fill holes on their front line sqns, then I feel that they're missing out.
There is a difference between a fast jet pilot (albeit from a foreign air force) and a transport/maritime pilot and their ability to go straight to a jet sqn. We already have the majority of the skills required on the F18, and shouldn't find it too hard to pick up the knowledge required.
As for a pilot from another role, you'd need to start back at the FLIT stage to learn things that we've been doing for the last 7 years.
The RAF have recognised this and are willing to put us out on the front line following a UK orientation (ie bad wx!) and then the OCU.
[ 01 September 2001: Message edited by: Douglas Driver ]
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Douglas Driver: Look me up in Townsville when you come over .... ask any CH-47D driver at C Sqn. Beers on me next time you are in TVL
Helix: Apologies ... put it down to 'only Kiwi in a room full of Aussies' syndrome .. tend to come out punching as an IA!!
Ka Kite A No
Helix: Apologies ... put it down to 'only Kiwi in a room full of Aussies' syndrome .. tend to come out punching as an IA!!
Ka Kite A No
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Dogsbreakfast: to ease your mind the individual who was chopped won't be making a comeback to the RAAF (you seriously think he would have been taken back??).
Chinook- see you in Townsville on Tuesday 25th September during 75's redeploy home.
Swingwing/Booger- see you in Amberley for the airshow dudes...bringing up a jet from Nowra for the static display
Finally, as one of the four 'seat stealers' can I just say I am REALLY looking forward to making the move to Aussie (and going super at 100').
Kia Kaha lads
[ 05 September 2001: Message edited by: kmagyoyo ]
Chinook- see you in Townsville on Tuesday 25th September during 75's redeploy home.
Swingwing/Booger- see you in Amberley for the airshow dudes...bringing up a jet from Nowra for the static display
Finally, as one of the four 'seat stealers' can I just say I am REALLY looking forward to making the move to Aussie (and going super at 100').
Kia Kaha lads
[ 05 September 2001: Message edited by: kmagyoyo ]
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Kmag and Douglas Driver: I don't suppose you could advise, by e-mail if necessary,the approx timing of that forecast 50' arrival at OH? It might be an opportune time to be leaning on a fence!
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Samuel,
Call Ohakea Operations on (06)351 5442; on the day of the races they'll be able to keep you informed of timings etc as the delays unfold.
Kmag & DD as they dont know their ar$e from their elbows....and hopefully they'll be too busy putting on a good show to be bothered by timings!
See ewes fellas when you get home!
Call Ohakea Operations on (06)351 5442; on the day of the races they'll be able to keep you informed of timings etc as the delays unfold.
Kmag & DD as they dont know their ar$e from their elbows....and hopefully they'll be too busy putting on a good show to be bothered by timings!
See ewes fellas when you get home!
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Kmag,
As pleased as most people are of the impending arrival of the Kiwi knucks, to drive th pig. Don't get too excited about the flying. With the inherent problems of a jet that is older than I am, the powers that be reckon we will be pushing **** up hill to get 160 hrs this year. So get used to lots of fishing days on the Sunshine Coast.
As pleased as most people are of the impending arrival of the Kiwi knucks, to drive th pig. Don't get too excited about the flying. With the inherent problems of a jet that is older than I am, the powers that be reckon we will be pushing **** up hill to get 160 hrs this year. So get used to lots of fishing days on the Sunshine Coast.
