GrpCapt. William Green
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It's a long time ago now. I'm sure we loaded 8x1000lb HES on his jet. He was a nice chap as I recall. Wasn't the guy in the back seat Flt Lt Anderson? When the war started, OC 27 Wg Cdr Elsdon(?) was tragically killed on ops.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Madcat, indeed Neil Anderson, ex-201, was the nav.
Just to clarify my answer to Madcap's post:
He mentioned Flt Lt Anderson as the guy in the back seat. That of course refers to Gp Capt Green's crash.
Just to clarify my answer to Madcap's post:
He mentioned Flt Lt Anderson as the guy in the back seat. That of course refers to Gp Capt Green's crash.
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I serviced the Aircraft...........
I have just found this discussion and even joined as a result.
I was an SAC Rigger on 27 Sqn at the time. I was working a swing shift(which employed 3 Engineers to carry out all pre flight servicings on the Tornado Gr1 27 Sqn fleet during midnight to 8 am). I believe HAS 59 housed the Aircraft in question. And had x8 blue circle(concrete) 1000lbs, to simulate long rang bombing missions in Iraq, as we were to be deployed as the first RAF Sqn for Op Granby. The sortie lasted for over 3 1/2 hours, and also required mid air refueling.
But a little known fact, as a result of our boss(who had been promoted to Group Captain, and refused to leave the Sqn as we built up for deployment) crashing, they grounded 55Sqn(Victor tankers), as the same tanker had refuelled the x2 Laarbruch based mid air collision only a few weeks prior.
Our boss was a massive loss for us as a family on 27 Sqn. As a result, the task of first deploying RAF Sqn was pasted onto 617 Sqn instead, and they deployed to Tobuk in October 1989.
My last memory of the boss, Scouse Allen was on tea bar duty for the liney crewroom. The boss always came in for a cup of tea and a chat(the only boss who did), he came in the day he was promoted to Group Captain. He placed his hat on the tea bar counter, to which Scouse replied "**** me Sir, but someone has **** on your hat". Refering to the braid now situated on the peak of his hat(nicknamed scrambled egg). The whole tea bar erupted in fits of laughter, including the boss, Group Captain Bill Green.
We as ground crew, never experienced another boss like him. And during my whole career never had the same respect for any officer, like our old boss.
I was an SAC Rigger on 27 Sqn at the time. I was working a swing shift(which employed 3 Engineers to carry out all pre flight servicings on the Tornado Gr1 27 Sqn fleet during midnight to 8 am). I believe HAS 59 housed the Aircraft in question. And had x8 blue circle(concrete) 1000lbs, to simulate long rang bombing missions in Iraq, as we were to be deployed as the first RAF Sqn for Op Granby. The sortie lasted for over 3 1/2 hours, and also required mid air refueling.
But a little known fact, as a result of our boss(who had been promoted to Group Captain, and refused to leave the Sqn as we built up for deployment) crashing, they grounded 55Sqn(Victor tankers), as the same tanker had refuelled the x2 Laarbruch based mid air collision only a few weeks prior.
Our boss was a massive loss for us as a family on 27 Sqn. As a result, the task of first deploying RAF Sqn was pasted onto 617 Sqn instead, and they deployed to Tobuk in October 1989.
My last memory of the boss, Scouse Allen was on tea bar duty for the liney crewroom. The boss always came in for a cup of tea and a chat(the only boss who did), he came in the day he was promoted to Group Captain. He placed his hat on the tea bar counter, to which Scouse replied "**** me Sir, but someone has **** on your hat". Refering to the braid now situated on the peak of his hat(nicknamed scrambled egg). The whole tea bar erupted in fits of laughter, including the boss, Group Captain Bill Green.
We as ground crew, never experienced another boss like him. And during my whole career never had the same respect for any officer, like our old boss.
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I have just found this discussion and even joined as a result.
I was an SAC Rigger on 27 Sqn at the time. I was working a swing shift(which employed 3 Engineers to carry out all pre flight servicings on the Tornado Gr1 27 Sqn fleet during midnight to 8 am). I believe HAS 59 housed the Aircraft in question. And had x8 blue circle(concrete) 1000lbs, to simulate long rang bombing missions in Iraq, as we were to be deployed as the first RAF Sqn for Op Granby. The sortie lasted for over 3 1/2 hours, and also required mid air refueling.
But a little known fact, as a result of our boss(who had been promoted to Group Captain, and refused to leave the Sqn as we built up for deployment) crashing, they grounded 55Sqn(Victor tankers), as the same tanker had refuelled the x2 Laarbruch based mid air collision only a few weeks prior.
Our boss was a massive loss for us as a family on 27 Sqn. As a result, the task of first deploying RAF Sqn was pasted onto 617 Sqn instead, and they deployed to Tobuk in October 1989.
My last memory of the boss, Scouse Allen was on tea bar duty for the liney crewroom. The boss always came in for a cup of tea and a chat(the only boss who did), he came in the day he was promoted to Group Captain. He placed his hat on the tea bar counter, to which Scouse replied "**** me Sir, but someone has **** on your hat". Refering to the braid now situated on the peak of his hat(nicknamed scrambled egg). The whole tea bar erupted in fits of laughter, including the boss, Group Captain Bill Green.
We as ground crew, never experienced another boss like him. And during my whole career never had the same respect for any officer, like our old boss.
I was an SAC Rigger on 27 Sqn at the time. I was working a swing shift(which employed 3 Engineers to carry out all pre flight servicings on the Tornado Gr1 27 Sqn fleet during midnight to 8 am). I believe HAS 59 housed the Aircraft in question. And had x8 blue circle(concrete) 1000lbs, to simulate long rang bombing missions in Iraq, as we were to be deployed as the first RAF Sqn for Op Granby. The sortie lasted for over 3 1/2 hours, and also required mid air refueling.
But a little known fact, as a result of our boss(who had been promoted to Group Captain, and refused to leave the Sqn as we built up for deployment) crashing, they grounded 55Sqn(Victor tankers), as the same tanker had refuelled the x2 Laarbruch based mid air collision only a few weeks prior.
Our boss was a massive loss for us as a family on 27 Sqn. As a result, the task of first deploying RAF Sqn was pasted onto 617 Sqn instead, and they deployed to Tobuk in October 1989.
My last memory of the boss, Scouse Allen was on tea bar duty for the liney crewroom. The boss always came in for a cup of tea and a chat(the only boss who did), he came in the day he was promoted to Group Captain. He placed his hat on the tea bar counter, to which Scouse replied "**** me Sir, but someone has **** on your hat". Refering to the braid now situated on the peak of his hat(nicknamed scrambled egg). The whole tea bar erupted in fits of laughter, including the boss, Group Captain Bill Green.
We as ground crew, never experienced another boss like him. And during my whole career never had the same respect for any officer, like our old boss.
Respect is earned.
TN.
