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Old 13th Apr 2008, 11:40   #1 (permalink)
 
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19 Sqn Battle of Britain Special 2008

19 SQUADRON SPECIAL PAINT SCHEME 2008...


In August 1938, 19 Squadron were the first to be equipped with Spitfires at Duxford and to celebrate this historic occasion 19 Squadron have submitted a paint scheme, which has been approved after months of negotiations, not only for the funding for the paint scheme, but also for the approval to have a Hawk painted in complete camouflage colours.

This afternoon we had the final ok to get the paint job done!

Next week XX184 will enter the paint shop at RAF Valley as a black trainer and will emerge in approximately three weeks as a fully camouflaged Hawk in the original colours of a Battle of Britain Spitfire as the design below depicts.




Mike Rondot, aviation artist has been commissioned to paint this very special aeroplane and as you can see below it is in formation with a Spitfire over Dover. There will only 70 prints to celebrate the 70years and to date, 20 have been sold. The intention is to have the prints signed by the surviving three 19Sq Spitfire pilots and the aircrew flying on the 24th May , OC19 being one.


" They Can Because They Think They Can "

There are several events planned for this jet and below is a list of these events to date.

24 th May.

Air - Air formation with the BBMF en route to Beaumaris in North Wales, where we will have the opportunity to photograph the jet in formataion not only with the BBMF's Lancaster, Spitfire and Hurricane but also in separate formations along the route.

26 th May.

We will join in formation with The Red Arrows on the way back from a display again this special jet will be amongst the world famous aerobatic team.

There are plans to attend Waddington, Fairford, Leuchars and Duxford airshows, where the jet will be displayed in all its glory as the show piece of 19 Squadron.

19 Squadrons families day will also be a high light for the jet as we are in the process of trying to arrange a Spitfire gathering to join our 'special' salute to the brave men of the Battle of Britain. Print #1 will be the main raffle prize at this event.

As and when more information becomes available it will be posted on the below web site,www.19squadron.co.uk, which has been formed especially for this occasion and will be live from monday. You will be able to order one of the limited edition prints available and calendars that will be produced to celebrate the Squadrons glorious history.

All of the proceeds will of course go to the squadrons chosen charity, the Special Care Baby Unit at Bangor.


For enquiries about the prints please contact Fritz on email Lindadereck@btinternet.com

For any further enquiries please contact Richard Bland.

e mail. specinst@aol.com
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
 
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Tremendous!
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 18:44   #3 (permalink)
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Mike Rondot, aviation artist has been commissioned to paint this very special aeroplane
Surely the guys in the Valley spray shop can do it quicker?
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 21:49   #4 (permalink)
 
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There talking about the Painting that is pictured here.
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Two's in.......I smiled....
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Spray job

Two's in - outstanding gag hombre! Who says the septics don't do irony !!

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Old 13th Apr 2008, 23:12   #7 (permalink)
 
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Two's In .... you owe me new keyboard!

Sounds like a cracking plan, would love to see it in formation with the BBMF. I would love to see the Hawk in a tactical paint scheme - especially one of such siginificance
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 08:57   #8 (permalink)
 
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Camouflage!!!



Brilliant!!!!!!

Now what about a Typhoon in similar colours

Or would that be considered to military and therefore offensive to certain people, minorities, new Liarbour, etc
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 11:31   #9 (permalink)
 
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It would actually be better to paint a Hawk in 'proper 1938 period' 19 Sqn markings.......as you then wouldn't have paint have of the underside of a black Hawk.........
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 15:59   #10 (permalink)
 
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Proper 1938

Proper camouflage for the introduction of the Spit 1 on 19 was Silver Dope undersides. The White/Duck Egg split with black undersides was later on.

Would hope that the Hawk is fully tooled up for AD with some 9L's on board but suppose that that would be too UN-PC.
Course having the Reds with winders as well would send a message that we still are prepared to defend the UK, with all means at our disposal. But as that secondary commitment went years ago, don't think that would be happening.

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Proper camouflage for the introduction of the Spit 1 on 19 was Silver Dope undersides. The White/Duck Egg split with black undersides was later on.
I thought it was silver dope under right wing with black under left, and then in 1939 the silver underwing was overpainted white, with the all sky undersides not appearing until 1940.....?
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 20:33   #12 (permalink)
 
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Two's In....I got it, very funny.

To everyone else, whilst I applaud 19 for their effort, isn't it just a little sad that we don't have a real 19 Sqn any more? Lightnings or Phantoms with the dolphin on the fin just made a statement. Maybe I've had too much Shiraz, but I think it's symptomatic of the end being in sight. A Hawk with a 30 mm canon pod just isn't in the same league as an F4 with 4 heaters, 4 radar missiles and a pod full of 1200 20mm rounds.

But I wish you well and have a good time at the airshows.
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I thought it was silver dope under right wing with black under left, and then in 1939 the silver underwing was overpainted white, with the all sky undersides not appearing until 1940.....?
Spotter mode on...

Originally painted silver when introduced, then black/white underneath (late 39 IIRC, but during the war) (on some a/c only the wings/tail were black and white and the fuselage remained silver), then sky/duck egg blue etc, then (winter 1940ish) the black under one wing made a brief comeback

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The 'camo' colour scheme should test the skills of the photographers in the Mach loop
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IIRC the 50-50 under side colouring was for Fighter Command. To aid Royal Observer Corps in ID'ing "Friendly" AC.

But will stand by Silver Dope on Original AC undersides.
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The BBMF Spitfire IIa leading the Hawk in fighting wing (or whatever it's termed nowadays) through the Machynlleth loop would indeed be a fine sight!
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Old 16th Apr 2008, 11:10   #17 (permalink)
 
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Hi All.

Please take a look at the web site we have set up for this years events with the painted Hawk.
We will post all the latest updates as and when they happen.

www.19squadron.co.uk

Regards Richard.
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Old 19th Apr 2008, 08:05   #18 (permalink)
 
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Hi all.

A few more photograohs added to the web site following a brief visit to the paintshop at Valley yesterday afternoon.

The next lot of images will start to show some of the new scheme with the finished jet in about a week.

Regards Richard.
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Old 1st May 2008, 18:02   #19 (permalink)
 
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Hi all.

Well, here it is in all it's glory!
Rolling out of Valley spray shop this morning.

Richard.



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Stunning, simply stunning, bloody excellent idea

Thanks for sharing the pics Richard, you might like to post them on UKAR too?
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