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Old 12th Jun 2006, 18:52
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£1bn defence cut next year

The Evening Standard's Robert Fox is reporting that £1bn is to be cut from the defence budget next year and allocated to "homeland defence". At least one major procurement will get canned. FRES and CVF are the most likely candidates along with Nimrod.

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Unlikely to be CVF given the JCA angle.

What about ASTUTE or not taking the option for another 2 Type 45?
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What about the Reds

(see why can't red ten use the bus)
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At least one major procurement will get canned
My guess:

Tranche 3 Typhoon to be navalised to equip the FAA
FSTA cancelled, but 6 ex-C-130K bought at twice the price we sold them for.
Chinook HC3 to be sold to pay MOD damage claims bill.
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Chinook HC3 to be sold to pay MOD damage claims bill.
You assume they are still worth something?!
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Get rid of all the techies - these modern planes are much more reliable. Get rid of all the clerks - we have JPA now so don't need them. Get rid of all the chefs - people can eat ready meals on det and at home units. Get rid of all the medics - we are all CCS trained in first aid for crying out loud.

Make sure we keep the musicians though - they are vital.

Hope G Brown and D Browne aren't reading this...
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Originally Posted by Mr-AEO
You assume they are still worth something?!
They must be worth something, the fuel tanks have some fuel in them
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Get rid of the RAF Police and save a fortune..
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They must be worth something, the fuel tanks have some fuel in them
It's been done, and someone made a lot of cash.
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Third Tranche

Originally Posted by ZH875
My guess:
Tranche 3 Typhoon to be navalised to equip the FAA
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or

"... But the pressure to sell the plane abroad has forced the department to agree a reduction of at least 24 in the number BAE pledged to include in the second delivery, in order to satisfy the Saudis. The RAF will at least have to wait longer to get its full complement. But defence sources last night suggested the Saudi order could be used to "get the MoD off the hook", and allow the government to cancel the third tranche without incurring huge cancellation fees."

(My emphasis)

Full story here

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=860512006
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Old 12th Jun 2006, 20:32
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Longing to see how prOOne will describe such a cut imposed by his Noo Labour luvvies as an increase in real terms......
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I haven't heard from Comrade pr00ne for ages.............
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If the cut is 'spent' somewhere else then someone will see an increase in their budget. Bury the news about the cut and shout about the increase...
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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...icle799572.ece
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I keep saying..... I'll go! I will happily take myself off the defence budget [apart form the pension bit of course].
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Will PFI deals cost us more?

Originally Posted by ZH875
My guess:

Tranche 3 Typhoon to be navalised to equip the FAA
FSTA cancelled, but 6 ex-C-130K bought at twice the price we sold them for.
Chinook HC3 to be sold to pay MOD damage claims bill.

I wonder if this move might make PFI less attractive?

From The Telegraph. Brown poised to break key fiscal rule
By Robert Watts (Filed: 25/06/2006)
Gordon Brown is poised to smash one of his highly prized fiscal rules because of new plans to bring billions of pounds of debts from the Private Finance Initiative onto the Government's books.

The inclusion of the controversial PFI deals, under which £53bn of public sector assets has been procured, will add billions of pounds to the national debt and almost certainly lead to the breaking of the chancellor's "sustainable investment" rule - that net debt should not rise above 40 per cent of gross domestic product.
I wonder what impact this will have to several of our major projects?
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Originally Posted by Navaleye
At least one major procurement will get canned... [possibly] Nimrod.
LOL! Go on, tell us another
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But presumably not a couple of aircraft-less carriers to take the RN from cockersP to cockersP around the world at a sedate pace?

The Army needs more armoured vehicles urgently, the RAF needs protective systems in its AT/AAR and RW aircraft urgently... The RN? Well, perhaps HMS Victory needs a bit more paint.

The RAF now has a recce capability GAP (not 'holiday') with the PR9 finally reaching its shagged-out by date.

But a few more EuropHoons for the pointy heads to rush around in going 'bang bang, you're dead' thousands of miles from the nearest war will undoubtedly be sacrosanct. Apart, that is, from the ones going to Saudi Arabia.

How is Nimrod 2000 coming along?

And as for a mere 9 A330 MRTT which have yet to be confirmed....
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would this be why certain creative and arty trades are being done away with as part of the RAF's contribution.
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NIMROD?
Not In My Remit On Defence - say's every SofS for Defence since that "Silly Billy" Healey
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