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Old 20th Jul 2004, 18:21   #1 (permalink)
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B-52 bombs Blackbushe

Well - not quite, but this afternoon at Farnborough a B-52 was expected and seen preparing for a run by - However it was about 6 miles north and - as confirmed by a friend there - completed a low pass of the 'bushe.

So much for all the new fancy gadgetry - and puts new meaning to the phrase collateral damage

It was last seen scuttling away in the direction of Fairford. Wonder if it was the same guy who damaged the edge lights at FFD on Monday?
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 19:08   #2 (permalink)
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Yup, was on the ground at Farnborough waiting for it, never seen one in the air before. Went past miles away, I thought to myself that it was flying past b/bushe just as the announcer said much the same thing. Doesn't give you much confidence in the bombing capability of the US Air Force does it?.

B1B and a F117 Nighthawk both made passes down the runway so I suppose 2 out 3 isn't too bad.
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 19:15   #3 (permalink)
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I was at F'boro and saw the B52 circling away to the north but was then involved with something else and didn't watch for it to arrive - but didn't hear it either. Wondered afterwards so maybe this explains it.
Anyone paying attention to the display at F'boro confirm it didn't arrive?
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 19:32   #4 (permalink)
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Watched the "flypast" also. All I can say is ...................worrying!!!
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 19:50   #5 (permalink)
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Did the same thing yesterday but managed to turn back on track to fly part way down the display line. From where I was standing 250kts (announced over the APP frequency by the pilot) was FAR too fast to make the turn needed, and a turn too far to the north was ineveitable. When he realised the mistake and tried to correct, the controller was having none of it and told him to break off.

Oh dear
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 20:02   #6 (permalink)
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Tight turn at 250KIAS

Wouldn't have been a problem in a Vulcan.
Old 20th Jul 2004, 20:50   #7 (permalink)
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Gave me the best laugh in ages, standing there watching this with my AAIB chum. Must have been fun in the circuit , C150's, Cherokees, B52......

The commentators words were great, never heard so much laughing in an airshow crowd for a long time!!

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I was one of the priveliged few to see such a spectacular [email protected] up.

My chum sat beside me watching the debacle did wonder, tho, whether the captain would ever find out his mistake- I rather suppose he would be told by someone, but not really shure who...


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Old 20th Jul 2004, 21:56   #9 (permalink)
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What is even more worrying is this happened last time around with the B52 carrying out fly-pasts at Blackbushe and Lasham instead of Farnborough.
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 22:45   #10 (permalink)
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srs what? - i think (needs confirming tho) that the incident last time around was in fact by a B1B flashing past just under the speed of sound at 500ft at both Lasham & Blackbushe on the public days, just imagine pottering around at Lasham in one of the gliders to find one of those things thundering past!
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Old 20th Jul 2004, 23:06   #11 (permalink)
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This has just made my day!! Wonder what excuse the USAF will come out with.


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Old 21st Jul 2004, 00:52   #12 (permalink)
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The last time this happened was indeed by a B-1B.
Funny thing was, i was talking to someone today about 'what if' the B52H did the same thing this year. An hour later and 'ICER21' bloody did it! He told ATC something along the lines of "I was suppose to be displaying at Farnborough, now enroute Fairford".

Poor guys in the circuit on a solo!
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 01:36   #13 (permalink)
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Come on; be fair guys! Blackbushe IS pretty close to Farnborough - I've made the same mistake in Microsoft Flight Simulator many times. They both look alike from the air, what with all those tents and crowds and aircraft parked all over the place. The runway is almost lined up the same way too...
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 04:34   #14 (permalink)
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Err,Err ------ why were so many civilians killed in Iraq?
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Yes yes, we can all enjoy other people being humbled, but let's not forget an earlier time, when thousands of B-17/24 crewmembers never came back while operating from similar airfields not far from there, along with the Canadians etc and so many in the RAF. We visited Churchill's War Room during our vacation "over there" recently and saw some sobering statistics.

And now, back to the smug observations...
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 05:53   #16 (permalink)
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You can just imagine the dialect on the flight deck...

"Hey Chuck - Wass all da fuss about this Farnbo-raah errrshow.... looks kinda primitive to me!"

"Sure is Hank - I ain't never seen so many Cessnas"

And it was a B1B in 2000 over the Bushe. (Should have just freecalled it to 122.3!!)
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 06:37   #17 (permalink)
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Is there any truth in the rumour that the B52 flew in direct from the USA, and then flew straight back again? Or would it have come from a UK / European base?
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 07:08   #18 (permalink)

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The B-52 arrived direct from the USA, I believe it landed at Fairford after it's "flypast"...Don't know how long it's staying.

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Old 21st Jul 2004, 07:28   #19 (permalink)
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Farnborough's bits on the ground aren't wide enough for a Buff apparently! Is this true?
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Old 21st Jul 2004, 07:41   #20 (permalink)
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What's all the fuss about? 5 mile error in 4,400 miles is pretty good.

Back in about 66 or 67, one of the first F111 in UK visited Cottesmore to show the V-crews there the shiny new jet that we had just ordered.

"And coming in from the east is the USAF F111 . . . "

Long, long pause then, 400 k heading 080 one F111 low and fastish disappeared into the clear blue countryside only to return and land about 10 minutes later

"Why did you come in from the WEST when we were told you were coming from the EAST?"

"You put Wittering in the computer; it goes to Wittering."

They had taken the position off the chart, maybe the Buff crew did too.

Years later, pair of Vikings out of ISK for one of the flat tops came close to ditching/diverting to Sumburgh when one of the Brit pilot pax said "Isn't is supposed to be WEST?" The USN had never flown across the Greenwich meridian.
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