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Tri Star bowing out.

Old 10th Feb 2014, 23:29
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Saw a piece in USA that Omni the US civil AAR contractor may be interested in them. Ready made AAR assets to add to their portfolio. Mentions less than a £mil for the lot. Cheaper an Omni TriStar on Falklands stby than mega bucks Voyager?
Perhaps you mean Omega Air, though they are already using converted DC-10-40s (ex-JAL) and have more in storage for future conversion, as far as I know. Omni Air are pax-only with B767 and B777 equipment.
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Old 10th Feb 2014, 23:52
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You're right, slip of the pen!
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 07:57
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Is there any chance of the TriStar being given a stay of execution?
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 08:28
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Redcarpet wrote:
Is there any chance of the TriStar being given a stay of execution?
Well, that would depend upon whether something limits the availability of the intended replacement.....

Top Bunk Tester, it's rather quiet here at the moment....I wonder why?
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 09:01
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Is there any chance of the TriStar being given a stay of execution?
Well if I were a betting man I think I'd have a flutter.

Mmmmmm Beags deafening isn't it?
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 13:53
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Chicken tava and kangaroo flip-flops for 300 please Basil!
We, in a well known civil airline, probably DID give the Pongos more fun in the TriStar than the old mob did.
Ex Gutersloh, new captain on type, new co-pilot on type.
Just fuel for the UK BUT, r/w length required full thrust departure.
Check alt on SID was 4000ft.
Climbing through 3000ft at circa 4000ft/min cojo calls "One to go." and looks down to retrieve doc from nav bag.
Looks up again to see 4000ft passing still at previous RoC.
Calls "Passing 4000!"
Silence and, ahem, reduced g ensues.

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Old 11th Feb 2014, 21:50
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TriStar

Just seen an RAF Trimotor at the Kemble scrapyard- were those guys busily screwing bits back on instead of dismantling it????
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 10:02
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Question

How many TriMotors are left in service to fill a "gap" if required?
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Old 13th Feb 2014, 06:28
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I am sad to hear about the in flight incident with the mil A330. Hope, all recover well. However, the damage to the whole fleet is done, and this will be a sure test of the military airworthiness system.
Talk of the TriStar being extended is warranted as the RAF faces the prospect of having no AAR capability in a months time. In fact, one can speculate that serious failures may have already started with the Prime Ministers promise to provide the French AF with AAR capability for CAR falling flat on its face. However, the effect on TriStar personel will be considerable and, although they will rise to any challenge, they will get scant reward-probably lose out on postings and promotions if the delay continues.
FSTA is screwed-up in many ways, and Billions of pounds have been wasted IMO.


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Old 14th Feb 2014, 03:01
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What's the latest "rumours" on the Tri* regarding any delay due to Voyager?
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 06:54
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So Dave has made a promise to help the French? Just remind me how many French ac are actually cleared for AAR against the Voyager.
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 10:10
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Vasco, yes the PM promised RAF AAR help with the French in CAR. Guess that this has proved to be a broken promise? For decades, RAF AAR assets have earned huge amounts of military credit when working for other NATO nations. One can only speculate if this will be possible in the future?

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Old 14th Feb 2014, 11:36
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It must make it interesting for inflight refuelling, f**k me where has it gone? springs to mind.
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 11:55
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Ex Gutersloh, new captain on type, new co-pilot on type.
Just fuel for
the UK BUT, r/w length required full thrust departure.
I recall that -22B thrust was required for Gutersloh departures? In any event, without much fuel aboard and only carrying Pax, it would still go up like a scalded angel!
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 14:24
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I recall that -22B thrust was required for Gutersloh departures? In any event, without much fuel aboard and only carrying Pax, it would still go up like a scalded angel!
Remember it well . . .
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 09:23
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Another week and, nothing! No news and yet, there is a trawl on the RAF website to complete a "how to improve this site" survey. Here is the answer - put some news on it! Is the TriStar doing a good job? Is the TriStar the only tanker asset left? Are 216 and their support working hard? What is happening?
It is not a secret that the FSTA is grounded. Why are the efforts of other personel unworthy of a few column inches, you muppets?

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Old 21st Feb 2014, 09:28
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Maybe they're trying to make a positive out of a negative? One tanker fleet grounded, the other due for retirement in six weeks.

Um, where's the former Iraqi information minister when you need him?
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 09:55
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TriStar taken over from still grounded Voyager all AAR and Herrick etc. but sagging with u/s aircraft down route already. Crews doing their best with clapped out kit!
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 13:26
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Thanks CP! The lack of public info smacks of conspiracy. What is there to hide ?

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Old 21st Feb 2014, 15:34
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Nothing. Voyager is back flying now.
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