USAF Kc135 crash Bishkek
And there was I hoping that the tinfoil hate idiots, MSFS geeks and the like were confining themselves to endless pages of drivel about the cause of the B-747F accident at Bagram....
Always easy to spot a timewaster on the Mil board - they refer to a woodworking tool rather than to an aircraft. They probably couldn't tell you the difference between an 'aircraft' or an 'aeroplane' either....
SASless, apart from multiple birdstrikes, I can think of another possible explanation, but am not going to post it here.
Always easy to spot a timewaster on the Mil board - they refer to a woodworking tool rather than to an aircraft. They probably couldn't tell you the difference between an 'aircraft' or an 'aeroplane' either....
SASless, apart from multiple birdstrikes, I can think of another possible explanation, but am not going to post it here.
What did I miss?
Given where it was flying, I am trying to puzzle out how someone comes up with SAM/MANPAD as a factor.
It's a reach, eh? A long reach, even ...
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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
PLEASE no-one post that sickly 'slipped the surly bonds of earth' clichéd crap....
The point I was trying to make, SASless, is that many of us might have our own ideas, but will NOT post them in a forum infested by people who are frankly not qualified to comment - and whose drivel merely diverts attention....
The point I was trying to make, SASless, is that many of us might have our own ideas, but will NOT post them in a forum infested by people who are frankly not qualified to comment - and whose drivel merely diverts attention....
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they refer to a woodworking tool rather than to an aircraft
Brilliant Question.....grounding the entire 135 fleet would do "What" to Combat Operations extant?
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
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Brilliant Question.....grounding the entire 135 fleet would do "What" to Combat Operations extant?
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
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KC 135 - B 707
Seems to be that some believe the B707 and the KC135 are one and the same. They both share the same genesis, the Boeing 367-80. The KC135 pre-dates the B707 by about 18 months, is a narrower and shorter airframe with different construction.
Apart from training flights the aircraft would have been predominately subjected to heavy weight take-offs and over time has been given significant engine upgrades. The type first entered service in around 1957, fifty-six years ago. The last production airframe was built in 1965 so the accident aircraft was at least
forty-eight years old.
Hopefully the cause will be determined and published, otherwise we learn nothing.
Apart from training flights the aircraft would have been predominately subjected to heavy weight take-offs and over time has been given significant engine upgrades. The type first entered service in around 1957, fifty-six years ago. The last production airframe was built in 1965 so the accident aircraft was at least
forty-eight years old.
Hopefully the cause will be determined and published, otherwise we learn nothing.
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It uses the same basic airframe as the 700 series which means the floor is approx 15 inches narrower and so is the cabin shell.
Makes me very sad that good men and women go in harms way and their service is not appreciated by many.
Lest We Forget
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Makes me very sad that good men and women go in harms way and their service is not appreciated by many.
Lest We Forget
Regards
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SASless Brilliant Question.....grounding the entire 135 fleet would do "What" to Combat Operations extant?
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
I would hope the risk owner has carefully balanced operational requirement with operating a platform with a potential fleet wide problem. If indeed the fleet is still flying it would indicate:
The operational need outweighed individuals risk.
The fault was understood and manageable.
A mixture of both.
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
I would hope the risk owner has carefully balanced operational requirement with operating a platform with a potential fleet wide problem. If indeed the fleet is still flying it would indicate:
The operational need outweighed individuals risk.
The fault was understood and manageable.
A mixture of both.
Operational necessity precludes grounding the entire fleet.
Simple enough.
Even if they found something of interest/concern fleet-wide....they would have to do a phased program of inspections all the while meeting Operational requirements.
The Air Force could alter some demand by altering the way they operate but Combat Operations would have to continue even at some risk if need be.
The Tankers are not hauling blue collar folk on sunshine holidays....they have a mission that requires they be there to pass gas.
Simple enough.
Even if they found something of interest/concern fleet-wide....they would have to do a phased program of inspections all the while meeting Operational requirements.
The Air Force could alter some demand by altering the way they operate but Combat Operations would have to continue even at some risk if need be.
The Tankers are not hauling blue collar folk on sunshine holidays....they have a mission that requires they be there to pass gas.
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they have a mission that requires they be there to pass gas.
