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Background In shallower waters or anomalous water conditions, especially odd temperature gradients or saltiness variations, sonar performance can be seriously degraded. Add in that both ships may have been sneaking around at low revs looking for each other, and this kind of thing is possible without anyone having screwed up.
I heard that USS San Jaciento (cruiser, ticonderoga class) and USS Montpellier (sub, Los Angeles class) were training for ASW operations.
USS Montpellier went to periscope depth, stuck up its periscope and the lookouts on USS San Jaciento spotted it...OOD ordered full back, but collision happened.
Shirt happens when you play for keeps. IF sonar were perfect things might b e different...but it isn't.
and for you british types, Montpellier is the capital of the state of vermont...san jaciento a famous battle.
back in ww2, our subs were named for sea creatures, cruisers for cities. things have changed...attack subs for cities, missile subs for states and cruisers for battles
no injuries, both ships are maneuvering under own power.
Last edited by sevenstrokeroll; 14th Oct 2012 at 21:17.
Actually, there are three battles of San Jacinto. The one I presume Sevenstrokeroll is referring to is the battle of 1836, which ironically didn't involve the United States. It was fought between Mexico and the Republic of Texas, which didn't become part of the USA until 1846. I stand ready to be corrected; my American history isn't up to par.
I don't know who told GBZ Tico was a destroyer... while that class were called destroyers during their planning and when Congress authorized them, they were redesignated as Guided Missile Cruisers (CG) on January 1, 1980... before the first keel was laid (21 January 1980).
Only the lead ship was formally ordered as a DDG... the other 26 were ordered in 1981 & later as CGs.
They were called cruisers when they were built, and they have been called cruisers ever since.
Last edited by GreenKnight121; 15th Oct 2012 at 18:10.