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Military 'may have to abandon flood-prone bases'

Old 21st Feb 2014, 23:35
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Military 'may have to abandon flood-prone bases'

.. climate change find that RAF Brize Norton and the Royal Navy's bases at Plymouth and Portsmouth could face the risk of flooding by 2020.
Good job they didn't put all the AT eggs in one basket...



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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 03:28
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I can't see anything detrimental about a Navy base going under water! That can then be classed as "on-the-job" training!!
And the RAF base can simply be converted into a Navy base, too! Where's the "outside-the-square" thinking, of your national defence leaders??
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Typical Navy - fancy having coastal bases that are too near the sea! What were they thinking of?
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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 07:56
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Bring back the Saunders-Roe jet float plane fighter.

The Western Jetties at Portsmouth, built for the QEC class carriers, were designed with sea-level rise in mind, so in reality that won't be a problem. However, the design life is. They were designed with a 60 year life, based on metal loss of the piles through corrosion (no corrosion protection) and will have been in place for over 20 years by the time the carriers enter service. Now the Nelsonian jetties and docks are a mere 230 years old and still in use. short sighted?
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Which reminds me of Leuchars in the F4 days. There were spare war time underwing fuel tanks in wooden crates scattered around the peri-track, slowly rotting away. Visitors would sometimes ask what they were.

Floats, I would explain solemnly. In case of the runway being severely careered and unusable, the F4s could be winched up and a float placed under each wheel. The airfield would then be flooded from the estuary allowing the F4s to be flown off, the floats being dropped out to sea before the undercarriage was retracted......
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RAF Sealand went up and down with the tide!!
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One would say bulldoze Carterton and build a flood bank, but no point really if your pax can't get there.
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A trifle scare-mongering this report, 'leaked' from FoI requests by a climate campaigner for Friends of the Earth & based on the 2007 floods when the Brize Norton runway was indeed flooded (coincident with the then CAS addressing a meeting of former CASs & in reply to a question 'what happens if the runway is closed?' stated 'that categorically could not happen'!) This year it's not happened despite heavier rainfall & much of the farmland a little way to the south having been underwater since Christmas.

As to Portsmouth & Plymouth bases being at risk from flooding? I guess proximity to the sea is in some way important to the Navy........

The surprise entry for me though was Akrotiri. The elevation of the threshold at Rwy 10 is around 56ft & similar but slightly higher at the other end, so hardly likely to disappear under rising sea levels for a few years unless there's a 50ft dip in the middle that I don't remember.
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Ballykelly managed and with read rail access too Chemical toilets got around the sceptic tank issue.
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This article is complete junk and I thought better of the Torygraph...

Milder winters in future could lead to an increase in numbers of Canada geese at the MoD’s offices at Abbey Wood in Bristol. This could result in the birds colliding with buildings on the site
Military 'may have to abandon flood-prone bases' - Telegraph

Who gives a rat's arse about Canada Geese hitting buildings? What makes Abbeywood's buildings more likely to be hit than any other 3 storey buildings in and around Bristol (or the rest of the country). Canada Geese aren't flying into buildings on a regular basis at other locations where they already flock - unless of course all the ones at Abbeywood are blind!

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Typical envirofundamentalist clap trap peddled by the woolly-hatted warmist sandalistas.....

Weren't we supposed to be having 'the coldest winter for years' in 2014?
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I can assure you we only export the finest quality, building-aware Canada Geese. We do have buildings here too; it's not all igloos
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One would say bulldoze Carterton
What! And do 500 quids worth of damage!
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"Typical envirofundamentalist clap trap peddled by the woolly-hatted warmist sandalistas....."

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In many years of catching hundreds of thousands of Canada geese in the UK, I have yet to hear of one colliding with a building !!!

The mind boggles where they come up with some of this crap.
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Potentially Flooded Airfields

Surely now is the time to get ahead of the game! If we reopen Binbrook, concentrate all AT (and every other aircraft that the RAF will have by 2020) into Waddington, then airfield operating costs will be minimalized and Binbrook can be the diversion - albeit with a substantial runway extension and more parking. Problem solved - no danger of flooding - immense cost savings - RAF confined to Lincolnshire.
Must go now - sandals getting wet and more trees to hug.
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BINBROOK!!! The rain passes over Binbrook horizontal on route to Brize.
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Milder winters in future could lead to an increase in numbers of Canada geese at the MoD’s offices at Abbey Wood in Bristol. This could result in the birds colliding with buildings on the site
Suggest someone tell the Caterers that Turkey is off menu next Christmas and its Canadian Goose..............
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If only the navy had some floating airfields then everything would be ok

They could call them Carrier of Aircraft or something like that.
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Weren't we supposed to be having 'the coldest winter for years' in 2014?
A couple of months ago the Met Office told councils to expect a 'drier than normal' Winter -
here: Met Office told councils to expect a 'drier than normal' Winter - Telegraph

I reckon the met office's seaweed forecaster got it wrong - better next time - perhaps!
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If only the navy had some floating airfields then everything would be ok

They could call them Carrier of Aircraft or something like that.
Or they could sail them down and scuttle one in Portsmouth harbour, thus giving them a raised runway that wouldn't flood, they could also be used as office space, one bridge no longer being required. The other one could be scuttled in the lower Thames, thus satisfying the requirement for the London Runway in the marshes.
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